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    I think the thing that bothers me with the "arm every person" solution to gun violence is the same thing that bothers me (and many others) about the anti-rape campaigns that are all about what women should do to try to avoid being raped. Rather than focusing on ways that we might be able to discourage rapists from raping (or discourage people from getting guns to shoot us dead with) we are focusing on telling potential victims what they might be able to do to stop an attack. In a perfect world, I feel like the onus should be 100% on stopping rapists from raping, and stopping shooters from shooting. Having said that, I realize we don't live in a perfect world - there has to be some measure of both. It bothers me that the NRA seems unable to accept anything that might work on the preventative side, and wants to solely focus on the defensive side. They're all "here's how how to fight back if you're getting shot at" and none of "how can we put sane measures in place to try to reduce the liklihood of shooters in the first place." And it seems to me that the target keeps moving. As I said before in the Executive Order debate, first the NRA wanted a dialogue about mental health, which in fairness, is probably a dialogue that we should have. But now that the President is doing something about the mental health peice, suddenly it's a bad thing, and it's not a mental health issue, now it's a poverty issue. And sure, I can agree that we need to do something about the poverty issue too, let's fix that too, but what poverty has to do with mass murders like at Sandy Hook and Columbine, I'm not sure because that wasn't inner city gang violence. It's like they just keep changing the topic to try to make sure the topic never lands on keeping anyone from owning a gun who ever wants one. It's disheartening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    I get what you are saying. You can be concerned without being brought to the brink of paralysis by that worry. There is a difference between "I realize this is possible and we should take precautions and be prepared for that possibility" and "I'm terrified that this is most definitely going to happen someday and live in fear of doing anything"
    Quoted for reference, but questions more towards the group as a whole.

    I do not know anyone that is cowering around to the brink of paralysis with the worry of being in a crowded place living in fear. That is different than saying "You know what, we have a problem. What can we do about that problem?" Is anyone saying that we do not have a problem in our schools? That gun control is the ONLY option? Why is school security as one piece of the puzzle so offensive?

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    What stinky people they are. Basically, their pockets are being threatened and this is how they ignorantly and unfairly strike back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Especially when you announce to the world that it is a gun free zone. Sitting ducks.
    Yes, that is why the UK and Japan have such high rates of school shootings compared to the US!






    Oh, wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    I get what you are saying. You can be concerned without being brought to the brink of paralysis by that worry. There is a difference between "I realize this is possible and we should take precautions and be prepared for that possibility" and "I'm terrified that this is most definitely going to happen someday and live in fear of doing anything"
    Or, on the total flip side, you could be like those Doomsday Preppers and spend every spare second building an underground shelter with all the munitions and supplies needed to last down there for years! lol...seriously...LIFE is what happens while you're making plans for the future.

    eta - okay, like I get the need for batteries for the flashlights, extra water in case, an emergency kit if you break down on the side of the road. Just wanted to add that....before it came up

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    Columbine had a full time resource officer/armed police officer. Its a shame we didn't start walking upstream to figure out where the bodies were coming from/address gun control and mental illness in a more meaningful way back then.
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    Virginia Tech had Armed police officers on campus. Ft Hood was, of course a MILTARY BASE, that didn't stop the shooter from taking mass lives.

    Can someone explain to me again why one police officer makes you feel so safe. The track record is pretty much the SUCK on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Virginia Tech had Armed police officers on campus. Ft Hood was, of course a MILTARY BASE, that didn't stop the shooter from taking mass lives.
    Soldiers were not allowed to carry at Ft. Hood. As a soldier himself the shooter knew that there wouldn't be anyone there with a weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Soldiers were not allowed to carry at Ft. Hood. As a soldier himself the shooter knew that there wouldn't be anyone there with a weapon.

    That is incorrect. There were armed Department of the Army Civilian Police officers on base, this is who ultimately shot him leaving him paralyzed.......after, of course he killed 13 people and wounded 29 more.

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