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    Even if you are vax'd can't you still be a carrier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I'm the "uneducated" loser in the thread who totally thinks that flu shots are stupid.
    I love this. There are many, many people who think the flu is not effective at all.

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    I'm cool with general people choosing not to get the flu shot. I don't really get the thinking, but it doesn't matter to me. But again, she is working with critically ill patients. I feel like if you work in that position, you have an obligation to take reasonable precautions to protect them, and I don't really see why a flu shot would not be considered a reasonable precaution. Sure, it's not a guarantee, but is anything a guarantee? That's like saying that nurses should be able to choose whether or not to wash their hands because washing your hands is no guarantee that you will get all of the germs off of your person (could still be on their clothes after all.) To me, getting an annual flu shot and washing your hands are both such non-big-deal reasonable things to ask of someone who is in the position to potentially spread infection to already sick and compromised patients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Even if you are vax'd can't you still be a carrier?
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    1- You can still be a carrier of the flu if vax'd.
    2- You can still get the flu if vax'd all depends on the strain.
    3- Vax can cause current strains to mutate.
    4- Washing hands and staying home when sick, and wearing a mask all prevent spreading of germs.
    5- The flu vax (depending on type and brand) contains things like mercury, Formaldehyde in doses above the CDC's recommended dose for adults.

    Influenza (Afluria)
    Beta-Propiolactone, Calcium Chloride, Neomycin, Ovalbumin, Polymyxin B,
    Potassium Chloride, Potassium Phosphate, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium
    Taurodeoxychoalate
    Influenza (Agriflu)
    Cetyltrimethylammonium Bromide (CTAB), Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or
    Formalin, Kanamycin, Neomycin Sulfate, Polysorbate 80
    Influenza (Fluarix)
    Egg Albumin (Ovalbumin), Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin,
    Gentamicin, Hydrocortisone, Octoxynol-10, α-Tocopheryl Hydrogen Succinate,
    Polysorbate 80, Sodium Deoxycholate, Sodium Phosphate, Thimerosal*

    Influenza (Flulaval)
    Egg Albumin (Ovalbumin), Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin, Sodium
    Deoxycholate, Phosphate Buffers, Thimerosal

    Influenza (Fluvirin)
    Beta-Propiolactone , Egg Protein, Neomycin, Polymyxin B, Polyoxyethylene
    9-10 Nonyl Phenol (Triton N-101, Octoxynol 9), Thimerosal (multidose
    containers), Thimerosal* (single-dose syringes)

    Influenza (Fluzone)
    Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin, Gelatin, Octoxinol-9 (Triton X-100),
    Thimerosal (multidose containers)

    Influenza (FluMist)
    Chick Kidney Cells, Egg Protein, Gentamicin Sulfate, Monosodium Glutamate,
    Sucrose Phosphate Glutamate Buffer

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    I do understand the push to vaccinate medical workers, just not sure it is actually effective in reducing the transfer of the disease. I think they should push harder for handwashing, wearing masks, and sending people home if they come in sick, to the point of loosing their jobs if they do not do these things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post

    I do understand the push to vaccinate medical workers, just not sure it is actually effective in reducing the transfer of the disease. I think they should push harder for handwashing, wearing masks, and sending people home if they come in sick, to the point of loosing their jobs if they do not do these things.
    Agreed.
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    I can admit that my refusal to get it is probably illogical. I have never had the flu. No one in my family has ever had the flu. I fully vaccinate my kids and myself (though we do delay only a very very select few and for only a short time, namely those given at birth).........I'm just weird about it. Dental xrays too. And milk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I can admit that my refusal to get it is probably illogical. I have never had the flu. No one in my family has ever had the flu. I fully vaccinate my kids and myself (though we do delay only a very very select few and for only a short time, namely those given at birth).........I'm just weird about it. Dental xrays too. And milk

    It will catch up to you eventually. DH had one in 96 (I was pregnant at the time) and he got bronchotis from it, he never got another one till the year after all of us had it. I'm talking the 4 of us and my parents, it was complete hell. Since then, we have all gotten one EVERY yr.

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    *Knock on wood* I have never had the flu either. (I do understand why nurses would be a different situation than the regular public though)

    ~Bonita~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    1- You can still be a carrier of the flu if vax'd.
    2- You can still get the flu if vax'd all depends on the strain.
    3- Vax can cause current strains to mutate.
    4- Washing hands and staying home when sick, and wearing a mask all prevent spreading of germs.
    5- The flu vax (depending on type and brand) contains things like mercury, Formaldehyde in doses above the CDC's recommended dose for adults.

    Influenza (Afluria)
    Beta-Propiolactone, Calcium Chloride, Neomycin, Ovalbumin, Polymyxin B,
    Potassium Chloride, Potassium Phosphate, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium
    Taurodeoxychoalate
    Influenza (Agriflu)
    Cetyltrimethylammonium Bromide (CTAB), Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or
    Formalin, Kanamycin, Neomycin Sulfate, Polysorbate 80
    Influenza (Fluarix)
    Egg Albumin (Ovalbumin), Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin,
    Gentamicin, Hydrocortisone, Octoxynol-10, α-Tocopheryl Hydrogen Succinate,
    Polysorbate 80, Sodium Deoxycholate, Sodium Phosphate, Thimerosal*

    Influenza (Flulaval)
    Egg Albumin (Ovalbumin), Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin, Sodium
    Deoxycholate, Phosphate Buffers, Thimerosal

    Influenza (Fluvirin)
    Beta-Propiolactone , Egg Protein, Neomycin, Polymyxin B, Polyoxyethylene
    9-10 Nonyl Phenol (Triton N-101, Octoxynol 9), Thimerosal (multidose
    containers), Thimerosal* (single-dose syringes)

    Influenza (Fluzone)
    Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin, Gelatin, Octoxinol-9 (Triton X-100),
    Thimerosal (multidose containers)

    Influenza (FluMist)
    Chick Kidney Cells, Egg Protein, Gentamicin Sulfate, Monosodium Glutamate,
    Sucrose Phosphate Glutamate Buffer

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    I do understand the push to vaccinate medical workers, just not sure it is actually effective in reducing the transfer of the disease. I think they should push harder for handwashing, wearing masks, and sending people home if they come in sick, to the point of loosing their jobs if they do not do these things.
    Your list/ingredients differ from what is on the CDC website. Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Additives in Vaccines Fact Sheet

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