Ob-gyn posting on FB.

22 posts / 0 new
Last post
AlyssaEimers's picture
Joined: 08/22/06
Posts: 6560
Ob-gyn posting on FB.

OB-GYN under fire for posting patient info on Facebook | Fox News

Was it inappropriate for the doctor to post this even though no name was given? Should she have been fired?

AlyssaEimers's picture
Joined: 08/22/06
Posts: 6560

I do not possibly see how this could be breaching any privacy rules as no name is given.

mommytoMR.FACE's picture
Joined: 04/10/09
Posts: 781

No name was given so I do not understand how it violates HIPAA. I will have to read the HIPAA laws on the govnt website to double check that, though.

I have doctor friends on my FB and they post things as well. I really don't see how it's a violation at all without a name and DOB.

Joined: 08/17/04
Posts: 2226

I agree. No HIPAA violations were broken. If her employer has a rule against this, like other debates, I expect then that she can receive due punishment.

I read the comments from the other doctor trying to say that they will help you find another doctor. Does she really realize how hard it is to legally discharge a patient from your practice. If you don't do it properly, and something goes wrong, they can sue you and in big money. It's crazy.

mommytoMR.FACE's picture
Joined: 04/10/09
Posts: 781

Side story: I have had patients try to get pissy with me when I call them from the waiting room by their first and last name... They claim it's a HIPAA violation when it's actually not a violation at all. Now if I said, "Susie Smith, come on back it's your turn to learn your gonorrhea test results" then yes that would be a violation.

mom3girls's picture
Joined: 01/09/07
Posts: 1535

LOL at Gonorrhea test

I have a couple doctor friends on FB, they both post things too. I dont see a HIPAA violation with no information given.

mom3girls's picture
Joined: 01/09/07
Posts: 1535

BTW, I HATE people being late. It is my very biggest pet peeve in life. I think it is the most inconsiderate thing. If I were that doctor I would be mad too

fuchsiasky's picture
Joined: 11/16/07
Posts: 955

I don't see it as a violation. That situation would be very frustrating! I understand why should would want to vent. As long as she doesn't give any identifying details then I don't see the issue.

Sapphire Sunsets's picture
Joined: 05/19/02
Posts: 672

Threatening to refuse care? Yup, can see that as totally fireable.

Technically there is no privacy violation. BUT, if someone that she knows also uses the same ob/gyn and knows her habits of being late or not showing at all they can pretty much identify her right there.

Joined: 04/12/03
Posts: 1686

Today I posted on my facebook about plagiarism. I didn't name any names, just that it is a dead giveaway when I find the exact same paper, word for word, complete with random apostrophes and quotation marks, on a free essay website. It never even occurred to me that it would violate the privacy of the one who turned in the paper. Similarly, I can't see how the dr.'s vent is any different. How could she have rephrased it? "I hate it when patients are late." It was already generic enough.

I think it goes to far. What is acceptable? Is it okay if she praises a patient? "I had a woman give birth to the most beautiful baby today"?

Joined: 04/12/03
Posts: 1686

"Sapphire Sunsets" wrote:

Threatening to refuse care? Yup, can see that as totally fireable.

I didn't see how she threatened to refuse care. It was a rhetorical question and she didn't imply that she would.

Technically there is no privacy violation. BUT, if someone that she knows also uses the same ob/gyn and knows her habits of being late or not showing at all they can pretty much identify her right there.

But which part would be the violation? If you and I use the same ob/gyn, the only information that you didn't already know is that I have been late for all of my appointments. You would already know I was pregnant and had all of the routine visits.

AlyssaEimers's picture
Joined: 08/22/06
Posts: 6560

"Sapphire Sunsets" wrote:

Threatening to refuse care?

How did she threaten to refuse care? How would anyone possibly know who she was talking to? How does the patient even know the doctor was talking about her. She could have 10 patients that are chronically late. It was obviously not serious statement.

Sapphire Sunsets's picture
Joined: 05/19/02
Posts: 672

"AlyssaEimers" wrote:

How did she threaten to refuse care? How would anyone possibly know who she was talking to? How does the patient even know the doctor was talking about her. She could have 10 patients that are chronically late. It was obviously not serious statement.

By saying she was going to be 3 hrs late for the womans delivery.

AlyssaEimers's picture
Joined: 08/22/06
Posts: 6560

"Sapphire Sunsets" wrote:

Threatening to refuse care? Yup, can see that as totally fireable.

Technically there is no privacy violation. BUT, if someone that she knows also uses the same ob/gyn and knows her habits of being late or not showing at all they can pretty much identify her right there.

?So I have a patient who has chosen to either no-show or be late (sometimes hours) for all of her prenatal visits, ultrasounds, and NSTs. She is now three hours late for her induction. May I show up late for her delivery??

May I show up late for her delivery is not a threat.

Joined: 11/28/06
Posts: 848

It may not be a HIPAA violation, but I certainly think it is unprofessional. I choose not to post about my students or co-workers (especially in a negative light) because I think it is rude and unnecessary and I respect their privacy. As a teacher, if I posted "One of my students is constantly late to class. Every day he is at least 20 minutes late and never has a valid excuse. Maybe tomorrow I'll be later than he is and leave him standing out in the cold waiting on me" I think it would be considered unprofessional and I can promise that my principal would not be too happy with me.

smsturner's picture
Joined: 05/11/09
Posts: 1303

It seems like a random jeez this sucks at work today comment. It wasn't like she listed tons of medical information. name or not. I don't think she should be fired.

Joined: 03/08/03
Posts: 3186

It's a tough one. I personally don't see anything wrong with what she posted and it certainly didn't identify anyone, but the medical profession has high standards about this sort of thing for good reason. I think she should simply be told it's inappropriate and warned not to do it again. They HAVE to have high standards about this because otherwise it gets very difficult trying to find the exact line of what's okay and what isn't, what's identifying and what isn't, etc.

But I would want to vent like she did and I totally get it.

Joined: 08/17/04
Posts: 2226

Yes....that is not a threat of no care.

If she said...I have her induction scheduled at 8am tomorrow and I'm going to get there at 1100 am...then I would say that was a threat.

SID081108's picture
Joined: 06/03/09
Posts: 1348

"Sapphire Sunsets" wrote:

By saying she was going to be 3 hrs late for the womans delivery.

Oh give me a break.

I can see the unprofessional argument. I have FB friends that are constantly posting about their "clients" (pharmacy clients, etc) and sometimes it does strike me as unprofessional. I can see that side. But there was no threat here, and certainly no HIPAA violation.

Joined: 03/08/03
Posts: 3186

Oh and I agree there was no threat.

Spacers's picture
Joined: 12/29/03
Posts: 4100

"smsturner" wrote:

It seems like a random jeez this sucks at work today comment. It wasn't like she listed tons of medical information. name or not. I don't think she should be fired.

ITA with this. I also agree with Laurie that the medical profession needs to have a higher standard than most of us. It sounds like not a very good relationship between the two of them, and I think the patient would have done better to switch providers than just keep showing up late to a doctor she doesn't like or for procedures she doesn't want.

Danifo's picture
Joined: 09/07/10
Posts: 1377

I also think it is just a random work sucks and I wish my patients would treat my time with some respect.

I have also made comments to friends/family with no names when I've done paternity testing and there are more than 6 potential fathers (disbelief) or when I've dealt with couples trying to have a baby but have more than 10 2nd trimester losses due to an inherited medical condition of the baby (heartbreak when I would see their names again).