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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    But what I was saying to that....we don't know what the plan was. A bare minimum coverage is not good coverage for most long term medical issues so he's paying into something and not typically using it. We don't know what that plan was besides that maybe it was cheaper.
    It may be what you are used to seeing where you live, but it is not what I consider "Good Insurance". The fact that your State is the model for Obamacare, and that you think these numbers are just fine is not a good sales pitch for ObamaCare. The numbers that I am used to seeing among people I know (Yes, people talk about this) most people were better off before. There already were plans in place for people who were too poor for insurance and this is hurting good people that already had insurance. The only people I see this helping are people that do not have employer based insurance and also have a pre-existing condition or are in very poor health. It would have been much, much cheaper to just help those people.

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    Actually, Massachusetts and most of New England were the last to come on board for deductible plans for the most part.This has been common in the majority of the country for quite some time.
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    Last edited by AlyssaEimers; 10-21-2013 at 05:00 PM.

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    Was discussing this with my aunt.. she and my uncle are very conservative and highly intelligent.. but are considering obamacare if their group plan stops as it would be cheaper! My uncle looked and said it would save them thousands over X amount of years so wanted to look more about it.. but couldn't as they couldn't log in. tried over and over.. different times of the day.. this in in Idaho.
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    LibertyNEWS.com – Obama’s Government Releases TV Ad Bragging About How Easy HealthCare.Gov Is To Use and How Much Cheaper Rates Are (VIDEO)



    President Obama emerged on Monday to assure Americans that the “kinks” surrounding the federal and state health-care exchanges are improving and urged consumers to call the exchange hotline if they continue to encounter problems online. Shortly after he made the suggestion, Twitter lit up with reporters and others who attempted to do so but failed to get through to a navigator as promised. After dialing the number, some callers got a busy signal, others received an automated message, and yet others were referred back to Healthcare.gov.
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    Isn't this wonderful! Not sure how it helps women to get free birth control from their employers healthcare plans when their jobs disappear. Yea for Obamacare! I'm thinking I would rather have a job than free birth control. So exactly who is waging a war on women?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Isn't this wonderful! Not sure how it helps women to get free birth control from their employers healthcare plans when their jobs disappear. Yea for Obamacare! I'm thinking I would rather have a job than free birth control. So exactly who is waging a war on women?

    154,000 Fewer Women Held Jobs in September; Female Participation in Labor Force Matches 24-Year Low | CNS News
    Are you working off of the assumption that employers are hiring less women because they have to pay for plans that cover birth control? That doesn't make any sense. It's not like they have lower costs if they hire less women - they have to offer the same plan no matter who they hire. For example, yes, they may hire a man instead of a woman, but his health insurance would also cover birth control, which he could then extend to his wife or daughter.
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    I don't get how that information means that women are not being employed...unemployment went down. Maybe the women aren't actively seeking work? Preferring to stay at home?
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    Who are these super healthy, never sick people who will never need insurance? I mean, as a population US citizens are some of the unhealthiest in the world.
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    Jessica - You can probably answer this. If my company offers insurance plan A...we are all on the exact same plan and have acess to (and pay for) the same services, right? So for example, plan A covers prostate exams, which I would then "pay for" so to speak by paying my premiums, even though I don't have a male prostate to get examined. On the other hand, Bob is also on plan A which covers birth control, so he "pays for" birth control, and Mary and Jane are child free by choice, but they pay for maternity care, and so on. Like, we all just have access and pay for the same group of services, right? It's not like Bob (or Bob's company) would pay less because he doesn't use hormonal birth control, or I would pay less because I don't get prostate exams. Is that right?
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