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    Currently, the US is at the bottom of the list in the industrialized world for things like access to health care for poor people, length of life, and medical cost controls. Currently, the US is at the top of the list for things like number of people uninsured (40 million! with another 30 million under-insured) insurance profit margins, total medical costs including those covered by taxation, overuse of prescription medications, and mordibity rates from all major diseases and childbirth. We can't get much worse.

    Keeping people healthy is good for society, both from a financial perspective and a health perspective. Having as many people insured as possible is good for society, both from a financial perspective and a health perspective. Keeping people out of emergency rooms for primary care is good for society, both from a financial perspective and a health perspective. So yes, I would actually say that ALL Americans are benefiting from ACA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Hmmmm.... is that the same Aetna that refused to participate in some of the ACA exchanges? The exchanges where people who don't have employer-based insurance have to buy insurance in order to get help toward their premiums? So rather than being part of the solution, they step out and then complain when it's not working quite right. Great.

    And is that the same Aetna that had $34.2 BILLION in revenue last year? Hmmmm.... I wonder how many people that amount would insure? A top-shelf, no deductible family plan in California is about $20K per year, so that's nearly TWO MILLION families, easily 10 million people, that Aetna alone could cover. But they aren't.

    We need to get the greed out of health care. We need to take care of our people, not pad the pockets of corporations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    Currently, the US is at the bottom of the list in the industrialized world for things like access to health care for poor people, length of life, and medical cost controls. Currently, the US is at the top of the list for things like number of people uninsured (40 million! with another 30 million under-insured) insurance profit margins, total medical costs including those covered by taxation, overuse of prescription medications, and mordibity rates from all major diseases and childbirth. We can't get much worse.

    Keeping people healthy is good for society, both from a financial perspective and a health perspective. Having as many people insured as possible is good for society, both from a financial perspective and a health perspective. Keeping people out of emergency rooms for primary care is good for society, both from a financial perspective and a health perspective. So yes, I would actually say that ALL Americans are benefiting from ACA.
    I disagree with you that Obamacare is the answer to those problems. A huge amount of people that were uninsured before are still uninsured. People are not only going to not have insurance, but they are going to have costly penalties to pay as well. People that did have insurance before were dropped. I do not see how Obamacare has benefited more than a minority of people.

    I do think there is value in Pres. Obama admitting that Obamacare is not, and can not work as written and is trying to make necessary adjustments. I do wonder about the legality of him making the changes on his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I do think there is value in Pres. Obama admitting that Obamacare is not, and can not work as written and is trying to make necessary adjustments. I do wonder about the legality of him making the changes on his own.
    He is not admitting anything. He is just putting it off a little longer so that it will affect less people by election time because he knows more people are going to be upset when the cost of the new insurance plans hit. He is doing it purely for political reasons because he doesn't want to lose senate seats.
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