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As I said on the other thread, this is something Obama has always had in his back pocket to be able to do, if necessary. I don't think they need to extend it for a year, but long enough to get everyone's plans switched should be fine. I was listening to CNN at the pet store this morning while they were trying to find the bird food DH wanted, and they said that the pressure put on Obama was unprecedented. The way things are supposed to work, is that both sides find a way to make it work even when they don't like it. It's not supposed to be, we don't like it, and we're going to do everything possible to prevent it happening, and then pressure the President to change his mind on it. ****ing bunch of bully Republicans.

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"Spacers" wrote:

****ing bunch of bully Republicans.

Seriously? Bully Republicans? Like they were not bullied into accepting a major change in healthcare. If that is not the pot calling the kettle black I do not know what is.

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I love our country and want it to succeed. I don't want this to be a flop because real people are going to suffer. That said, if Democrats fall flat on their face because of this law they have no one to blame but themselves. Not one Republican voted for Obamacare. That means Democrats get 100% of the praise if there is any and 100% of the blame.

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This is not a fix, it is a delay in one area. And it is unconstitutional, the president is not allowed unilateral ability to change laws

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"AlyssaEimers" wrote:

Seriously? Bully Republicans? Like they were not bullied into accepting a major change in healthcare. If that is not the pot calling the kettle black I do not know what is.

You forget that this was properly and legally passed piece of legislation. One that was copied almost verbatim from the one in Massachusetts which was supported by Republicans and signed by a Republican governor. But now that we want it nationwide, it's a Democratic bureaucratic nightmare. Hmmmmm..... not sure how that works. :rolleyes:

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You forget that this was properly and legally passed piece of legislation. One that was copied almost verbatim from the one in Massachusetts which was supported by Republicans and signed by a Republican governor. But now that we want it nationwide, it's a Democratic bureaucratic nightmare. Hmmmmm..... not sure how that works. :rolleyes:

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53% of Republican voters in Mass. equals about 6% of all voters here. Not convincing to me.

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53% of Republican voters in Mass. equals about 6% of all voters here. Not convincing to me.

That is exactly why you can not say that Massachusetts voting in Romneycare means that the rest of the Republicans in the Country support it or that it means we would support Obamacare because it mimics Romneycare.

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When did I ever say that?

If you only support things based on party lines though I feel bad for you.

I'm thinking this 6% of voters are just going to hate anything. They probably don't even realize how much it has benefited them.

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"Jessica80" wrote:

When did I ever say that?

My posting the link and commit was in response to Stacy's commit, sorry.

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Sorry, I was confused since you quoted me.

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"mom3girls" wrote:

This is not a fix, it is a delay in one area. And it is unconstitutional, the president is not allowed unilateral ability to change laws

agree.

He is not a king and can create a decree to be put into place.

The law was legally passed, any changes to it need to be legally passed as well.

plus, its only a temporary bandaid. I'm worried how much more is going to happen when the employer mandate is in full swing.

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More I think about this, the more I think it is a super great play by the democrats. The insurance commissioners in some states are saying they wont be able to do this, policies are written already and cannot be changed. Obama can now say "well I tried to fix it, the other guys weren't willing"

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"mom3girls" wrote:

More I think about this, the more I think it is a super great play by the democrats. The insurance commissioners in some states are saying they wont be able to do this, policies are written already and cannot be changed. Obama can now say "well I tried to fix it, the other guys weren't willing"

Exactly my thought. Especially when it is probably not even something he can legally do. There are questions about if it was even legal for him to postpone the employer mandate for a year. It seems like he is making his own rules up as he goes along.