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    Should Obama apologize to the Apaches for using the code name "Geronimo" for the operation to kill bin Laden?

    The Fort Sill Apache Tribe leader is demanding that President Obama apologize for the government's use of the code name "Geronimo for terrorist Usbama bin Laden.

    Tribal Chairman Jeff Houser asked for the apology in a letter sent Tuesday to the president.

    "We are grateful that the United States was successful in its mission against Bin Laden, but associating Geronimo's name with an international terrorist only perpetuates old stereotypes about Apaches," Houser wrote.

    "In the 1800's, Geronimo and the Chiricahua Apache people were portrayed as savages," he added. "This portrayal was used as justification for the forced removal from their homelands and their subsequent imprisonment. Linking Geronimo's name to an infamous terrorist only reinforces this false and defamatory stereotype."

    The letter was posted Wednesday morning on the tribe's website, and the tribe's administration confirmed it was from Houser.
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    Oh for the luv...show me your grades/transcripts, show me your birth cert in long and short form, boxers or briefs? Now send me an apology. Really, I think it's a little much. It's like my mom saying my husband and I are prejudiced against native americans for using the word indian...which I am (indian, not prejudiced). I'm sure it wasn't 'personal'.
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    Sure, Ithink Obama should acknowledge the feelings of the Native Americans.I think it sets a good precedent and it is the right thing to do. I have a feeling he will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollydoll View Post
    Oh for the luv...show me your grades/transcripts, show me your birth cert in long and short form, boxers or briefs? Now send me an apology. Really, I think it's a little much. It's like my mom saying my husband and I are prejudiced against native americans for using the word indian...which I am (indian, not prejudiced). I'm sure it wasn't 'personal'.
    Things don't have to be personal or intentional to hurt someone else. I teach my children to apologize for knocking another child down by accident, because it is acknowledging that they have caused another pain.

    I think that he should apologize. All the tribe leader is doing is asking for an acknowledgement that the use of the name Geronimo was unacceptable for the reasons he states, not suing or making a huge fuss. And I find that completely acceptable. If people dont tell us when we have made a mistake, then how will we improve and keep from making it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    Things don't have to be personal or intentional to hurt someone else. I teach my children to apologize for knocking another child down by accident, because it is acknowledging that they have caused another pain.

    I think that he should apologize. All the tribe leader is doing is asking for an acknowledgement that the use of the name Geronimo was unacceptable for the reasons he states, not suing or making a huge fuss. And I find that completely acceptable. If people dont tell us when we have made a mistake, then how will we improve and keep from making it again.
    I agree with this. I don't think it was probably meant to be offensive (I would be interested in hearing why it was named Operation Geronimo - I don't get the connection) but if I accidentally hurt someone's feelings, I apologize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    I agree with this. I don't think it was probably meant to be offensive (I would be interested in hearing why it was named Operation Geronimo - I don't get the connection) but if I accidentally hurt someone's feelings, I apologize.
    Geronimo was famous for hiding out from the army and being hard to catch.
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    I kindov miss the old days where the military did things in the name of national security that were actually secret and covert and whatnot.

    The ridiculousness over all of this, the reconstruction of the scene,the graphic photos, the details of the operation etc......not much good comes of knowing any of this, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Geronimo was famous for hiding out from the army and being hard to catch.
    Got it. That makes sense.
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    I just think it gets a little overly sensitive. Of course I teach my children to apologize when the accidentally knock a person down. But I also teach them that not everything is a personal attack on them or their race etc. I don't all upset when my facility calls a code white, just because I'm white, I don't get offended by Operation Geronimo because I'm part indian. Sometimes I think that it gets to be more of an attention seeking ploy than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollydoll View Post
    I just think it gets a little overly sensitive. Of course I teach my children to apologize when the accidentally knock a person down. But I also teach them that not everything is a personal attack on them or their race etc. I don't all upset when my facility calls a code white, just because I'm white, I don't get offended by Operation Geronimo because I'm part indian. Sometimes I think that it gets to be more of an attention seeking ploy than anything.
    Well if you are part Native American I woudl think you would understand why native American's are sensitive. Indeginous people in this country ahve had to fight to get any recognition from the gov't. As a people who are never acknoeldged except for entertainment value, I woudl be pissed as well.

    As for "code White" I doubt that White people have the same problem getting recognition and having their voice heard in this country. White people aren't just acknowledge in movies as the heathen or their likeness used for nothign more then sports team logos and outside cigerette stores. Their rights aren't taken away every day nor are they corraled in reservations while outsiders have taken their land and broken every treaty they ever created. So I can see why it is easy for you don't consdier the term"code white" as a racial issue. Especially since the person who coined and used the term was probably white. I doubt the gov't has many or any indeginous people helping to guide them in the creation of these terms. Maybe if they did they would not be so ignorant as to use offensive jargon.

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