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    Thumbs down OT - Aaaarrrrrrrgh, I am dying of sleep deprivation

    In a nice dovetail to the "happy or miserable" thread, I am dying over here.

    Reid. Love him to peices with all of my heart, but he is going to be the death of me.

    He's 4 months old, and he has learned to roll from his back to his tummy. He can also sometimes roll from him tummy to his back, but that is less consistent. I bet some of you know where this is going already.

    So he hates tummy time. Always has. No matter how long it's been since he last ate, he ALWAYS throws up when he's on his tummy. It's just inevitable, like death and taxes. Tummy Time = Throw Up Time. Still, we've dutifully done it every day, even though neither of us get any joy out of the experience. Lately though, he has been rolling on his tummy and then getting stuck there, and then he starts crying because he hates being on his tummy. I let him stay stuck for a few minutes hoping that the injustice of it all will give him Hulk Strength and he'll learn to roll back onto his back again. Sometimes it works. Most of the time he stays on his tummy crying and puking until I give up and roll him back over. Then he promptly rolls onto his tummy again, and we start the whole thing over again. I don't mind that so much during the day. We've been going through a ton of blankets every day because of all of the spitting up, and I wish it was more fun for us, but other than that, whatever. This too shall pass.

    The problem is, he does it at night too. On one hand, I don't really want him sleeping on his tummy anyway because I'm still scared of SIDS, so I suppose I should be grateful that he wakes up and alerts me so I can come roll him back over onto his back. On the other hand, ZOMG. We have been getting up every hour on the hour for nights and nights now because every hour he rolls over onto his tummy and wakes up screaming to be rescued. Also, he's always been really tough to get to sleep. I have tried the whole "putting him down drowsy but awake" thing about half a zillion times, and still the only way I've ever found to get him to sleep involves rocking and nursing. Occassionally now he will fall asleep sucking his thumb instead of nursing, but there still needs to be rocking. So I'm up every hour, rocking him back to sleep, laying him back down, spending a few minutes going back to sleep myself, only to be woken up again in about 40 minutes. I. am. DYING. I woke up for work this morning feeling like I had been on an all night tequila bender or something - pounding headache, upset stomach, the works.

    I asked his ped about it at his four month appt on Friday, and he suggested rolled up receiving blankets on either side of him to keep him from rolling, but I don't want to do that because I'm worried he will smother himself. He doesn't just roll in his sleep, he also moves all over the crib; he's usually flipped around 180 degrees and all the way in one of the corners of crib by the time I go get him, even though I always leave him in the center of the thing. So adding blankets or a sleep positioner to that whole mix just sounds like a bad idea to me.

    I do NOT remember this with T. Maybe I blocked it out in some sort of sleep deprived last bid to hold on to my sanity?

    I'm losing it over here. Please, no one tell me to be grateful as I rock my sweet baby back to sleep for the 6th time tonight, because I will fashion a voodoo doll out of crumpled burp clothes and tears and name it after you.
    -Alissa, mom to Tristan (5) and Reid (the baby!)

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    I'm so sorry you're going through this . Does he like to be swaddled?
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    I understand your pain. Robbie was up to eat every 2 hours for 2 years, he suddenly started STTN on his second birthday. For quite some time I would just bring him into our bed and hold him, Sean hated it but I needed sleep. No real suggestions for you but
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    Oh no!

    Our pediatrician said it was fine for Juliet to sleep on her tummy once we realized that was what made her happy.

    Is he too big already to swaddle? Juliet hated that but Nathaniel loved it.

    I wouldn't force him to do tummy time if he doesn't like it, though.

    Mostly I just have tremendous sympathy. Neither of mine were good sleepers as babies and Juliet still gets into our bed a few nights a week.
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    I dont know what your feelings are about it, but I would bring him to bed with me if he was mine. In fact, my babe ends up in bed with us every night at some point. With DS1 it was the only way I could get some sleep.
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    When I was nursing Juliet I'd have her in bed with me and let her fall asleep while nursing. I was desperate.

    As a friend told me once, "With newborns/young babies, it's all about survival."
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    That's why I co-slept with both of mine. I needed my sleep more than anything else. ITA with your hesitation about rolled-up blankets, and I say shame on your ped for even suggesting that! However, there are sleep positioners that *are* safe and I think you should try one. Also try setting up the crib as a co-sleeper so you can just reach over & roll him back over without having to get out of bed or even really wake up, kwim? (((hugs)))

    Here's an example of a good sleep positioner. It says "side sleeping" but you can adjust it wider. Baby's body goes in it with his head & arms above one end of the pads and legs below the other end. When babies move in their sleep, they scoot up, not down, so there's pretty much no danger of it getting near his face. And even if he does manage to wiggle all the way back around to it, the shape of the pads still gives him plenty of room to breathe even if his face is right up against it. And if he's next to you in a co-sleeper, you'll probably sense him wiggling around and be able to get him back into it before he can scooted back around. And maybe just being closer to you might reduce the amount of wiggling he does? Babies are hard-wired to find their mamas, after all, something to think about.
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    Well, if you had had your children when you were 16 you would be treasuring these nights, Alissa.

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    Kidding!

    I always found 4 months to be a difficult time. For me, that was when I transitioned all of my babies FROM cosleeping into their own cribs, as it was when a sleep schedule started to naturally develop for them as far as daytime sleep went. It was also a time where they had SO MUCH going on developmentally that I found them going through rough nighttime sleep. Is he sleeping on any sort of schedule during the day? Like a routine morning/afternoon nap and maybe a late afternoon catnap?

    For me, putting them down to sleep early (like, 6:30 or 6:45) and consistently helped tremendously. I also moved AWAY from a swaddle at this time as with my babies it seemed to frustrate them as they seemed to like to be able to reach their own hands for comfort or to be able to roll as they saw fit. Personally I didn't worry about tummy sleeping once they were able to roll.

    Its rough. I don't have any real suggestions other than to try to be REALLY strict with daytime schedules (i.e make sure that he is on one) and not in the car during or around his napping times to ensure that he is getting good, solid chunks of daytime sleep, and also good, active "awake" times with plenty of stimulation to help those naps be actual tired times.

    Sorry Mama and I hope that you and he both get through this quickly! xoxo

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    Oh yeah, make sure the daycare isn't letting him sleep too much during the day. Tiven set herself on a good day schedule, she would sleep for four hours after lunch like clockwork, wait for me to get home & nurse, and then stay up & play with us until bedtime. Weston was a different child, he would sleep all freaking day, and my DH would let him. Drove me freaking batty. DH didn't want to wake him up, especially since it was easier on him! It took me literally screaming that I was going to kick him out of house if he didn't wake Weston up after a couple of hours before he changed, ugh, my stomach is in knots just remembering that. My sister actually had to switch my nephew because her first daycare lady was leaving him in a swing to sleep all afternoon.
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