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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Cite? I would love to know what percentage of people you think supported him simply because he was black.
    A stunning 54 percent of young white voters supported Obama, compared with 44 percent who went for McCain, the senator from Arizona. In the past three decades, no Democratic presidential nominee has won more than 45 percent of young whites.
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    Okay, so you're saying that had to be because he's black and not for any other reason, like maybe because voters (young and old) were completely sick of the Republican policies that got us into two endless wars and also sent us into financial ruin? That's condescending.
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    I personally know people who have told me they voted for Obama only because he was black. I am not saying that everyone did that, but I know people who did. I do not think that will be as much of an issue in this election. The excitement of the first Black President has worn off, and I believe he will be judged on the past four years, and not because he is black.

    ETA - I am talking about Republicans that had voted Republican all their life.
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    Bonita - I'll see your anecdotal evidence and raise you a recent Esquire poll that reported that 26% of people personally knew someone who wouldn't vote for Obama just because he's black (to be fair, another 13% said they knew someone who wouldn't vote for Mitt because he's Mormon, so all of the "isms" are alive and well in the country in 2012. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Bonita - I'll see your anecdotal evidence and raise you a recent Esquire poll that reported that 26% of people personally knew someone who wouldn't vote for Obama just because he's black (to be fair, another 13% said they knew someone who wouldn't vote for Mitt because he's Mormon, so all of the "isms" are alive and well in the country in 2012. )

    Esquire Yahoo Poll - Full Results of Esquire Yahoo News Election Poll - Esquire
    I am sure there are plenty of people who voted for him just because he was black, and many who did not vote for him just because he was black. What I think what Gloria was saying was, wouldn't it be a great day if it did not matter? The color of someone's skin was just that, a color?

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    I agree it shouldn't matter. I bristled at Gloria's suggestion that a lot of people voted for him BECAUSE he's black and that's it. I think that is an amazingly condescending position to take.
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    I dont think it has to be a condescending POV. I know people that were excited to vote for him because he was black, they were excited to be part of history. I did not vote for him, major disagreement on which direction the country should go, but I was excited to have a black person in the WH. I love that it was during my lifetime. I also hope to see a woman in there in my lifetime. But more then anything I hope someday to be able to vote for the right person without the subject of color or gender coming up
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    How does a simple debate about how we feel about tomorrow coming and going turn into...this?

    Why does this have to happen every time???
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    Forgot to answer the question.

    I'm not agonizing. I just want to vote and get it done and move on.

    I hope who I'm voting for wins. I'm at the point that if it isn't then I'm not going to be a turd and cry over it. I'm hoping that if the other candidate wins that they prove my doubts wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    How does a simple debate about how we feel about tomorrow coming and going turn into...this?

    Why does this have to happen every time???
    AMEN. lol


    I'm so ready for the end of this election. Not because I believe in anything less, but I think at this point, there is no more arguing to be had. People have made their decision and I'm pretty sure there aren't too many undecideds out there right now. Unfortunately, it's close...so who knows when they will actually be done counting etc... How long did that take with Gore back then?
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