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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Not sure of your point.....since the leaders of Cuba and Venezuela support Obama, there is no signficance in the fact that is support world wide is so large?

    ok.
    I think the point is, that it would be better for the POTUS to serve the interests of America not the interests of other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I wasn't talking about black voters.
    You were talking about young people, and young people also identify more often as Democrat than Republican, so it's not surprising that young people would vote Democrat, regardless of the color of the Democrat's skin.

    Young voters are trending Democratic. Young people are identifying as Democrats, supporting the party’s issues, and casting ballots for Democratic candidates at the polls.

    Young people supported Democrats by a 2 to 1 margin and, of the 2.2 million new young voters in the 2008 cycle, two million voted for a Democrat for president. More young Democrats cast a ballot than young Republicans in nearly every state in the 2008 primary season – even in staunchly “red” states.

    Barack Obama won among young voters by 27 points in a head-to-head matchup with John McCain, 60-33%. Obama ran strongly with every segment of the youth vote.

    John McCain had a net negative approval rating among young voters; 49% view him negatively with only 30% viewing him favorably. Additionally, 50% have a negative view of the Republican Party, and a whopping 69% view President Bush negatively.

    Democrats have a 19 point advantage in party identification. Nearly half of 18-29 year olds (47%) identified as Democrats in 2008, up from 40% in 2006. Just 28% identify as Republicans. Democrats also have a 25 point advantage on the generic congressional ballot, 52-27%.

    In 2010, young voters ages 18-29 supported Democratic House Candidates by an impressive 57%, nine points higher than the voting-age population as a whole.

    Young African-Americans, young Hispanics, and young women are particularly inclined to support Democrats, both on the generic ballot and when asked about specific candidates. Young independents, young white men, and even young evangelicals all favor Democrats.

    Young voters support Democrats on the issues. Young people are rejecting the failed policies of the Bush Administration and support Democrats on every key issue. The economy and the war in Iraq top the list of concerns among young voters.
    Youth Voting Stats ? YDA – Young Democrats of America
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I think the point is, that it would be better for the POTUS to serve the interests of America not the interests of other countries.
    No, she said "I'm not sure its something to brag about".....pointing to the fact that Cuba and Venezuela are two of the supporting leaders. I think its fair to say that its more important what we think as citizens than what other countries think, but sorry Bonita, i dont' think that was Gloria's point in this case, even if she does agree with it. If it was, it needs clarification then as the words and the link most certainly insinuates that 'Obama's international supporters are evil people we don't like so don't brag about it'

    And for the record, the data i am referring to isn't about interantional leaders supporting Obama anyway. Susan has already kindly offerred a link to what i was talking about.

    Now all that being said, while the fact that Obama is globally preferred takes second seat to what we prefer, i don't think that fact is in the realm of insignificance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I think the point is, that it would be better for the POTUS to serve the interests of America not the interests of other countries.
    Make no mistake that other countries, especially Canada, have an extremely vested interest in who wins your election. I am not saying your POTUS should put our interests ahead of yours, of course not, but with US economy so deeply intertwined with those of other countries, US foreign policy, etc. we care very much who wins and whoever does win should care what other countries think.
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    Yes. sorry I was answering Bonita's question.

    Foreign policy and relations with other nations is important. Like Kim said, our interests are and should be first as a nation but we can't ignore the fact that how other countries perceive our leaders isn't important.
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    I for one will be relieved not to hear the awful smear campaigns going on around here. I haven't voted yet, though. I had to go for a lovely mammogram this morning, and I think I'm going to wait until the boys get home so they can go with me.
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    Very OT - but i also had to share a conversation i had with my kids a few weeks ago about marriage equality. I know that those who oppose it won't care for the story, but since this isn't like facebook, i have to share it everyone.

    (For reference a Yes on 1 in Maine supports Same Sex Marriage).

    The kids were asking what all the Yes on 1 Signs meant. I explained to them that Question 1 on the ballot asks us if we think boys should be able to marry boys and girls should be able to marry girls. My son pipes up immediately thinking thats a great idea LOL.

    My 7 year old says to me "Are you going to vote Yes momma?"

    Me: Yep

    Son: Right, because you are already married and it doesn't matter to you, right mom?

    Me: Right!

    Son: But it might matter to one of us some day


    For the record, i never taught him that, he was not repeating anything i explicitly said to him. It made me teary eyed.

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