Overly PC or good decision?

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Overly PC or good decision?

http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil_ball_golf/post/NBC-omits-8216-under-God-8217-8216-indivi?urn=golf-wp2901

"yahoonews" wrote:

Rory McIlroy has almost certainly drained all the drama out of the on-course play at the U.S. Open. But outside the ropes, NBC led off its telecast with an immediately controversial pre-taped segment. Listen to the pledge of allegiance that runs alongside the patriotic images, and later to the one that overlays video of previous U.S. Open winners:
*video here*

In case it's been awhile since you said the pledge in elementary school, the first version left out the words "under God" and "indivisible." The second went even further, knocking out "one nation" as well.

The outcry on Twitter was immediate and almost universally negative. Perhaps this style was an artistic choice on the part of the segment producer, interweaving the pledge with military and golf-related sound bites, but the decision to leave out "under God" is a curious one at best, and a highly controversial one, without doubt.

Later in the telecast, host Dan Hicks read the following statement during coverage: "It was our intent to begin our coverage of this U.S. Open championship with a feature that captured the patriotism of our national championship being here in our nation's capital for the third time. Regrettably, a portion of the pledge of allegiance that was in that feature was edited out. It was not done to upset anyone and we'd like to apologize to those of you who were offended by it."

Of note: "under God" was not in the original pledge from 1892, which read, "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." The words "under God" were not added to the pledge until 1954, when President Eisenhower signed Congressional legislation to that effect into law.

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What is the debate question? Are you wondering if it was overly PC to leave out the "Under God" in the initial segment, or if it was overly PC to make the statement explaining it?

On a unrelated note, I love Rory, and I love Congressional Smile I was so thrilled for him yesterday.

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Do you think that NBC was being overly PC to omit "under God"?

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No, because I think that choosing to omit "Under God" was not politically correct.

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No. I think it's funny that people are in an uproar about it.

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They certainly got the media's attention. I wonder if that was what they were going for. I don't care. I do think it's better to try and get it changed legally rather than play around with something that is supposed to represent the USA. Why did they leave out one nation and indivisible? Why apologize?

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The pledge is the pledge, regardless of when it was last "updated." The fact is that, until someone decides to change it again, it should undoubtedly be said that way that it's currently written... period. Yes, I think people have gotten way too sensitive with the "under God" part, meaning that if you don't like it, don't say it... but don't change it by editing when it's not your job to do so.

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"Starryblue702" wrote:

The pledge is the pledge, regardless of when it was last "updated." The fact is that, until someone decides to change it again, it should undoubtedly be said that way that it's currently written... period. Yes, I think people have gotten way too sensitive with the "under God" part, meaning that if you don't like it, don't say it... but don't change it by editing when it's not your job to do so.

I would say that people are way too sensitive on both sides of this issue. Getting outraged because someone says "Under God." Meh. Getting outraged because someone chooses NOT to say "Under God" (isn't that what you were just suggesting? That people not say "Under God" if that is their choice?) Meh.

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"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

I would say that people are way too sensitive on both sides of this issue.

THIS^

I just can't seem to work up any sort of a rage about the whole "under God" in the pledge thing or most religious debates for that matter.

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It reminds me of the outrage over ~ what was it ~ the Republicans reading something with something omitted ~ Bill of rights? Constitution? I forget. I get why people who are deeply religious take something that they perceive to be overt like that personally. I don't as I am not, but I get it. People want to know "why".

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"Potter75" wrote:

It reminds me of the outrage over ~ what was it ~ the Republicans reading something with something omitted ~ Bill of rights? Constitution? I forget. I get why people who are deeply religious take something that they perceive to be overt like that personally. I don't as I am not, but I get it. People want to know "why".

Here's the thing - whenever we debate things that may be a violation of the Establishment Clause (National Day of Prayer, "Under God" in the pledge, et cetera) religious folks always have the same answer: "It's our personal religious freedom to do these things if we choose to. Atheists, if you don't like it, you don't have to participate."

But then, we see that when someone actually doesn't "participate" (for whatever reason - who cares why - maybe the editors at NBC are atheists. ;)) then we see the outrage, and we see in fact that (some) religious people only care about "personal religious freedom" as it applies to them. It's really not okay with them if others "don't participate." Honestly, forget that. I don't think that NBC or anyone else should have to tippy toe around these people just because they think they should be able to dictate other people's religious expression. That whole "if you don't like it, don't watch" attitude cuts both ways.

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Had they chosen to not participate by not reciting the pledge, I don't think that anyone would be upset.

(FTR, again, I'm not upset either way Lol

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Is that normal to recite the pledge at US sporting events? The anthem I totally get, but the pledge I've never heard of. The only country I know where you have to recite a pledge/chant before a sporting event is North Korea.

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"blather" wrote:

Is that normal to recite the pledge at US sporting events? The anthem I totally get, but the pledge I've never heard of. The only country I know where you have to recite a pledge/chant before a sporting event is North Korea.

No, that's not normal.

NBC ran it before the event started it on TV as far as I know.

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It's the US Open, and was taking place in Wash DC. They were just going for the patriotism/history angle. It wasn't recited, NBC used it in their little moving golf tribute montage intro thing.

I've never seen the pledge recited at an event other than my kids preschool program Smile It wasn't all that North Korea like, it was pretty cute.

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"Potter75" wrote:

Had they chosen to not participate by not reciting the pledge, I don't think that anyone would be upset.

(FTR, again, I'm not upset either way Lol

I totally agree... I think it's just the "chopping it up" that people don't like. Either say it or don't, but don't play with the verbage to fit how you want it.