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    It has been made a law in the UK that if a child does not attend school, then the parent can be fined or even prosecuted and spend time in prison.

    What are your thoughts on this?

    They advise that children should not be taken out of school during term time and if you require to do so, you have to book this through the head teacher (principal). They can decline your request and can choose how many days your child is or isn't allowed off.

    Is this a bit OTT?

    I read a story about a family who had taken their 3 kids out of school for a week to holiday in Greece. They were fined ?780 as this was in term time. The reason parents holiday during term time (I did it myself last year) is because the price to go on holiday is extremely high when the kids are out of school, compared to when they're not.

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    Anyone else see the boards as a big jumbly mess today?

    I think that's ridiculous. The solution is for schools to lighten up. Learning doesn't just happen inside the classroom, and life is important too.

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    This thread looks like a mess for me as well.

    I disagree with dictating what parents can do with their own children. (Within reason)

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    Anyone else see the boards as a big jumbly mess today?

    I think that's ridiculous. The solution is for schools to lighten up. Learning doesn't just happen inside the classroom, and life is important too.
    But what if some schools are having significant problems with this? While life is important, i don't think every parent is really that great at determining how much time out of school is too much. They have worked a request process into this policy and in a process like this, i would want the principal to be reasonable.

    Interesting because initially i only read the first sentence of this debate and went off to do something else. I originally thought it was going to be about teenagers not showing up for class. Make me wonder though if a parent has intentions of getting their kid to school but the child skips out...is the parent going to get fined? I don't think i like that.

    ETA: and the thread looks fine to me...maybe they fixed the problem?

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    When I went to school and where DH works, if you miss X number of days you fail the grade. One year I had strep throat several times in the same year and they sent a letter home that I was missing too much school. I think it is reasonable to require a student to complete a set number of days to pass a grade. I do not however, believe it is reasonable to not allow a child who has not already missed their allotted amount of days to go on a one week vacation throughout the year. DH' s family lives all scattered and we try to get together once a year. This might be the only time in the year that some of the children see their cousins/grandparents. This is not as much an issue for us as we homeschool (although we still have to do our 180 days, we can just adjust our days), but it can be a major problem to match schedules. Here, schools get out at the end of May and go back the beginning of August. In NY they get out then end of June and go back after Labor Day. Some schools even go year round. There is no way for everyone to get together unless some kids miss school. In my opinion it is more important to keep those relationships alive than it is to miss one week of school. If a child is doing well, and has not already missed a ton from illness than missing one week will not hurt them.

    Even in most jobs you would have X sick days and X personal or vacation days. A school child should not be treated an less.
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    Also, this thread is most definitely still messed up...

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    I dont know, I agree that a reasonable request should be granted. However, around here they will not hold a child back a grade. You can keep your kid out half the year and they still advance with their peers, but hugely behind. When a child is out sick for a large amount of time there are systems in place to help them stay up to date with their class (some larger districts go as far as having a roving teacher who brings the class work and tutors the child to keep them up to date). If it is not possible to keep the child up to date, then that child will need remedial help the next year to catch up. This often involves special work with pullouts, learning assistance, aides in or out of the classroom. These things cost money. As a tax payer I dont mind paying to catch up a child who had to be hospitalized or miss school due to injury or illness. I do have a problem paying to catch up a child whos parents didnt bother to send them to school, or took them on a 3 month long holiday in the middle of the school year (I have seen this happen), so yes, maybe it is a good thing to fine those parents, as long as the money goes back into the school district.
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    Yeah having a cap on missed days seems to be a reasonable compromise. I guess i wouldn't see a need to define it any further than that.

    In regards to the thread, maybe its browser specific. I use chrome, it looks good to me here.
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    Nevermind, i finally got it to happen and it looks messed up to me now too. Looks like a CSS issue or something.

    ETA: Doing a ctrl+refresh (ctrl+f5) fixes it for me again.

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    I also use chrome and it looks good to me

    The problem I see with a cap on missed days, is it punishes a sick child which I dont think is fair. Also, there has been a lot of research on how it is detrimental to kids to remove them from their peer group by keeping them back, or moving them up a grade. I think there is times it is worth it, but it would make it much harder for a child who has been out sick for a long period of time to integrate back into the classroom.
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