Parents right to be upset?

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mom3girls's picture
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Parents right to be upset?

I read this article today
Teens Trash Ex-NFL Player's Home And Parents Are Mad At Him? : The Two-Way : NPR

Debate question, are the parents right to be angry with the homeowner or should they be more concerned with what their kids did?

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That is so sad!!!! I would be furious if my kids were involved and I would be making them go out there to help clean up. I think he has every right to post pictures and tweets of anyone involved, if they weren't public he wouldn't have been able to get them. I can't believe that those kids feel no shame.

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The teenagers involved should be held legally responsible for the damage done. Any anger on the parents part should be directed toward the children involved.

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My son would be lucky to have the police handle it instead of me...I would be so unbelievably disappointed and furious with him.

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Those parents are a disgrace.

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Awful parents. He's not ruining the kids' chances of getting into college; they did that when they broke into his house and trashed it. Disgusting behavior.

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Okay...I need to think this through out loud.

1. My kid attends a party where others are doing all sorts of things that are illegal and immoral.
2. My kid and his/her friends take all sorts of pictures memorializing the event
3. The pictures are posted on various social media sites
4. The person who owns the house reposts the pictures and requests cooperation
5. My kid's chances of getting into a good college are now ruined.

Not because of their actions but because the homeowner called them out on it? Your special snowflake's chance of getting into a good college is now ruined. I wouldn't fret...now we tax-payers will cover the cost of their tuition and perhaps your child can send you one of those cool "My child was inmate of the month" bumper stickers.

Who you gonna sue when that felony conviction ruins your child's chances of getting a job?

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I feel so bad for this guy and these parents are failing as parents. Selfish actions by the children mirror selfish attitudes that they were raised with.

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This was really close to where i grew up.

Your kid illegally uses and trashes someone elses property and then posts pictures of the event publicly on the internet...and now the parents are upset that everyone is seeing the pictures?

I can't even muster up an ounce of sympathy.

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I agree with everyone else. Major parenting fail.

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Looks like they have started making arrests. It would have been a lot smarter if the kids had come forward when given the chance. I wonder who the parents are going to sue when their kids get arrested?

Six people were arrested on charges they were among hundreds of young partygoers who trashed a former NFL player's vacation home, and police said more arrests were expected.

The arrests on Thursday came after former New England Patriots and Los Angeles Raiders offensive lineman Brian Holloway said he signed papers authorizing the Rensselaer County sheriff to bring charges in the Labor Day weekend party, which was attended by up to 400 teenagers.

Holloway said that among those charged was a young man he had taken into his family for a time as a homeless teen, who's accused of organizing and promoting the party. He said investigators have told him the number of people charged could end up in the hundreds as they work through the sheer volume of participants.

"Everyone that broke the law, I'm pressing charges against," Holloway said. "The parents had a chance and students had a chance to come forward, and only four did."

Police arrest 6 people for vandalism after partying teens trash ex-NFL player's house | Fox News

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Good. He should. He gave them a chance to be good people (parents and kids) and they wanted to whine about it. I certainly would have pressed charges from the beginning. Better person than I am.

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Wanker parents. If my kid participated in that kind of vandalism (or ANY kind of vandalism) I'd lose my freaking marbles on him/her, ground them for like infinity (not really), and then turn them in. Of course, most parents who think like I do and raise their kids to be respectful members of society would never even let them associate with brats like that, nor would they WANT to associate with brats like that. What the eff is wrong with these over-indulgent, blind-eyed parents these days? If I did that in like 1988 or whatever my parents would have kicked.my.a$$ from here to Timbuktu.

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I've read some comments that have come around on many of those articles about Holloway. It is kind of disappointing because it paints him in a less appealing light than he originally was in. Did you know a lot of that damage already existed? Some of the graffiti...stained carpets etc. The house is in foreclosure and he hadn't been maintaining it. He has been milking a lot of attention from the media for this story...and also asking for donations on his website without being very clear as to where this donation money goes.

I'm definitely glad that the kids were arrested, i still don't feel sorry for them and i still think Holloway was the victim of a lot of crimes. Just disappointing to think he himself may not be as upstanding as I originally thought, or how he's been portrayed for the most part.

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I'm not sure I buy it, his daughter says in this article that they are talking about where she and her friends had spray painted their own names on the wall in the barn. It also says the neighbor who is making this claim hasn't even been in the house so I'm not sure how he would know. And finally, even if someone had broken in and had a party previously, that doesn't excuse doing it AGAIN! Talk about blaming the victim. I guess if a girl gets raped once that makes it ok to rape her again? I don't see how it being in foreclosure has anything to do with it.

Brian Holloway | NFL | Foreclosure

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Argh i had a response to this and now its gone...i don't know what happened to it.

Anyway, i'll try it again.

"GloriaInTX" wrote:

I'm not sure I buy it, his daughter says in this article that they are talking about where she and her friends had spray painted their own names on the wall in the barn. It also says the neighbor who is making this claim hasn't even been in the house so I'm not sure how he would know.

I read a blog post that had links from the waybackmachine...they were from a real estate/for sale site which showed pictures of it with the graffiti. There was definitely new graffiti added to what was already there, but the media hasn't portrayed it that way when discussing this story. Unless you read more, you would think it was all done during this one party.

And finally, even if someone had broken in and had a party previously, that doesn't excuse doing it AGAIN! Talk about blaming the victim. I guess if a girl gets raped once that makes it ok to rape her again?

Is this in response to what i wrote? Because I said this:
"I'm definitely glad that the kids were arrested, i still don't feel sorry for them and i still think Holloway was the victim of a lot of crimes."

I don't see how it being in foreclosure has anything to do with it.

My entire sentence was "The house is in foreclosure and he hadn't been maintaining it." The point in mentioning the foreclosure was to emphasize why the house was not in a good state to begin with.

None of what i mentioned was meant to be a debate in support of the kids (thought I made that pretty clear...exceptionally clear actually) Its more a comment...for discussions sake as to how I'm disappointed that I think he is taking advantage of this situation.

This is the original blog post I read that made me feel like he might not be 100% honest in what he is doing:
Hot Diggity!: Should You Donate to the "Help Me Save 300" Fund?

it is the one that contains the link to the way back machine:
Palo Alto In New York

Again...don't object one bit to what happened to those kids. Don't have sympathy for them. But I have lost a little respect for Holloway along the way...entirely separate issue.

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"KimPossible" wrote:

Is this in response to what i wrote? Because I said this:
"I'm definitely glad that the kids were arrested, i still don't feel sorry for them and i still think Holloway was the victim of a lot of crimes."

No I understand what you were saying I was just responding to the situation in general.

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"GloriaInTX" wrote:

No I understand what you were saying I was just responding to the situation in general.

Oh okay. Yeah, i didn't see too many people who pointed out his behavior also condone what these kids did too. Most think both are in the wrong.

I'm sure there are some who would excuse the kids based on his behavior....they are probably the kids' parents Smile