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    Do you think facing prosecution for homeschooling your children if you are sent home is a valid reason for granting political asylum?

    The U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the Obama Administration?s decision to deny asylum to a German homeschooling family.

    The Romeike family fled their German homeland in 2008 seeking political asylum in the United States ? where they hoped to home school their children. Instead, the Obama administration wants the evangelical Christian family deported.

    An Immigration judge granted them asylum in 2010 after the family revealed they were facing criminal prosecution for homeschooling their children. That decision was later overturned by the Board of Immigration Appeals in 2012.

    The court ruled today that the Romeikes had not made a sufficient case and that the United States has not opened its doors to every victim of unfair treatment.

    ?Congress might have written the immigration laws to grant a safe haven to people living elsewhere in the world who face government strictures the United States Constitution prohibits,? the court ruled. ?But it did not.?

    Michael Farris, founder of the Home School Legal Defense Association, vowed to appeal the decision.

    ?America has room for this family and we will do everything we can to help them,? Farris said.

    The court did rule that parents do have a right to direct the education and upbringing of their children. However, they refused to concede that the harsh treatment of religiously motivated homeschoolers in Germany amounts to persecution within our laws.

    ?Germany continues to persecute homeschoolers,? said Mike Donnelly, the HSLDA?s director of international affairs. ?The court ignored mountains of evidence that homeschoolers are harshly fined and that custody of their children is gravely threatened?something most people would call persecution. This is what the Romeikes will suffer if they are sent back to Germany.?

    The Justice Dept. is arguing that German law banning home schooling does not violate the family?s human rights.

    ?They are trying to send a family back to Germany where they would certainly lose custody of their children,? Farris told Fox News. ?Our government is siding with Germany.?

    Farris said the Germans ban home schools because ?they don?t want to have religious and philosophical minorities in their country.?

    ?That means they don?t want to have significant numbers of people who think differently than what the government thinks,? he said. ?It?s an incredibly dangerous assertion that people can?t think in a way that the government doesn?t approve of.?

    He said the Justice Dept. is backing that kind of thinking and arguing ?it is not a human rights violation.?

    Farris said he finds great irony that the Obama administration is releasing thousands of illegal aliens ? yet wants to send a family seeking political asylum back to Germany.

    ?Eleven million people are going to be allowed to stay freely ? but this one family is going to be shipped back to Germany to be persecuted,? he said. ?It just doesn?t make any sense.?
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    I do think it is a valid excuse. I think that it fits within the parameters of what is considered when seeking political asylum
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    Education is a human right. Homeschooling is not. They decided to homeschool in a country where it is illegal. They will not lose their children if they return home *unless* they continue to break the law. That's a freely-made decision, not religious persecution.
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    I don't think this is going against their human rights and agree that they do not necessarily qualify for asylum.

    I may disagree with Germany's law on this but for something like this they should have to obey the laws in their country.
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    I don't think this is going against their human rights and agree that they do not necessarily qualify for asylum.

    I may disagree with Germany's law on this but for something like this they should have to obey the laws in their country.
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    Also, the German courts and the European Court of Human Rights have a slightly different view than Fox News on why Germany bans homeschooling....
    In September 2006, the European Court of Human Rights upheld the German ban on homeschooling, stating "parents may not refuse... [compulsory schooling] on the basis of their convictions", and adding that the right to education "calls for regulation by the State". The European Court took the position that the plaintiffs were the children, not their parents, and declared "children are unable to foresee the consequences of their parents' decision for home education because of their young age.... Schools represent society, and it is in the children's interest to become part of that society. The parents' right to educate does not go as far as to deprive their children of that experience."

    The European Court endorsed a "carefully reasoned" decision of the German court concerning "the general interest of society to avoid the emergence of parallel societies based on separate philosophical convictions and the importance of integrating minorities into society."[54]
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    Strange that quote left something out. I think this is clearly religious persecution.
    In most asylum cases, there is some guesswork necessary to figure out the government’s true motive—but not in this case. The Supreme Court of Germany declared that the purpose of the German ban on homeschooling was to “counteract the development of religious and philosophically motivated parallel societies.”

    This sounds elegant, perhaps, but at its core it is a frightening concept. This means that the German government wants to prohibit people who think differently from the government (on religious or philosophical grounds) from growing and developing into a force in society.
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    I have no will power at all. I wanted to stay away from this debate.

    I will just say this. There are at leas a million homeschoolers in the US (How Many Homeschoolers Are There? - FamilyEducation.com). Obama could not ban homeschooling on a national level even if it was his sole agenda. There is no part of me that thinks that there is any danger of the US banning homeschooling. Individual States might try to, but on a Federal level, that is just not going to happen.

    The US also does not have to accept anyone into the country that they do not want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I will just say this. There are at leas a million homeschoolers in the US (How Many Homeschoolers Are There? - FamilyEducation.com). Obama could not ban homeschooling on a national level even if it was his sole agenda. There is no part of me that thinks that there is any danger of the US banning homeschooling. Individual States might try to, but on a Federal level, that is just not going to happen.
    Where on Earth are you getting this idea from? Has anyone seriously suggested that Obama wants to try to ban homeschooling? Since when has the U.S. adopted policies based on what Germany does?
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    The fact that you think that this has anything to do with the US banning homeschool frightens me a little.

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