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    And as parents, according to Germany's law, they can temper that education at home. They are not being persecuted because of their religion but for the homeschooling they do. Therefore, they do not qualify for asylum. Asylum doesn't protect for homeschooling laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    And as parents, according to Germany's law, they can temper that education at home. They are not being persecuted because of their religion but for the homeschooling they do. Therefore, they do not qualify for asylum. Asylum doesn't protect for homeschooling laws.
    It goes hand in hand. They are home schooling because of their religious beliefs. Therefore they are being persecuted for their religious beliefs in their children being forced by police escort to attend public school.
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    I'm sure that all of us with kids in public schools would say that there are things we would prefer our kids not learn about. We temper that at home with our own instruction. There is no reason why religious folks can't do the same. There is nothing in their religion that forbids public education, therefore no reason to violate the law to do so. If I lived in a country that required religious education in the public schools, I would either work like hell to change the law, or I would move before my kids reached school age. I wouldn't claim religious persecution because of it.
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    They are not being persecuted because of their beliefs. They are free to keep them and they are not being mistreated because of their religion. Again, they are not covered for asylum.
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    I like that Jessica's post came up twice because I really agreed with it.

    I do think Germany should allow home schooling. I don't think people should be granted asylum here because they want to homeschool and Germany won't let them. Seriously, there are people who deserve asylum because of true suffering and need, and this is not even close. You can teach your children your values and still send them to school. I think people who are being actively persecuted should be granted asylum; these people are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    I don't think people should be granted asylum here because they want to homeschool and Germany won't let them.
    Exactly. Next thing you know we'll have a wave of French people seeking asylum because they want to get married in a church and church marriages aren't legally valid in France. Having to get married at city hall like everyone else is not a violation of your religious freedoms or human rights. And having to send your kid to public school in a country where homeschooling is illegal is not a violation of your religious freedoms or human rights. I'd love for homeschooling to be legal but I understand the logic behind it. It's one of my primary argument against homeschooling in the U.S. It seems that most people in the U.S. who choose to homeschool do so because they want to insulate their children from society rather than offer them a wider world view, and I don't think that's a good thing to do to kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    It seems that most people in the U.S. who choose to homeschool do so because they want to insulate their children from society rather than offer them a wider world view, and I don't think that's a good thing to do to kids.
    People home school for many, many reasons. My nieces are being homeschooled by her mother and her mother's girlfriend. They are as liberal, anti-christian as any member of this board. Yes, there are many stereotypical homeschoolers that do homeschool because they do not want outside influences in their child's life. However, there are also whole message boards full of homeschoolers that are dedicated to all secular homeschooling. People that are unhappy with today's education system and think that they can do a better job of educating their child than the public school system and can not afford IVY league schools.

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    This isn't about homeschooling in principle, it's about asylum and persecution. I think they should be allowed to homeschool but I don't think that is a strong enough reason for asylum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    This isn't about homeschooling in principle, it's about asylum and persecution. I think they should be allowed to homeschool but I don't think that is a strong enough reason for asylum.
    I was referring only to Stacy's commit that most people homeschool their children in order insulate their children from society. As I said, I believe the Government can allow or deny asylum to whomever they chose. Asylum is not a right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    I'm sure that all of us with kids in public schools would say that there are things we would prefer our kids not learn about. We temper that at home with our own instruction. There is no reason why religious folks can't do the same. There is nothing in their religion that forbids public education, therefore no reason to violate the law to do so. If I lived in a country that required religious education in the public schools, I would either work like hell to change the law, or I would move before my kids reached school age. I wouldn't claim religious persecution because of it.
    I agree 100% with everything here.

    They definitely teach some things in the public schools that don't match my beliefs/opinions. But the world is full of things like that.

    If our schools required religious education I would do the same -- work to change the law or move. Or hire a really good deprogrammer.
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