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    They are as liberal, anti-christian as any member of this board.
    hmmm

    ...anywho I agree with Laurie. This is not asylum worthy.

    (Obviously not just Laurie, i just liked how clearly stated her post was)
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    Default Question asked regarding Anti Christian name calling.

    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    hmmm
    Yeah really. I'd be curious who you are labeling called Anti-Christian, Bonita?
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    Yeah I have to admit that "anti-Christian" label sorta bothers me too. I'm married to one, you know. I love him!
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    I let that one slide yesterday. I might not be a deist but I'm not anti-christian. I'm anti-fanaticists and anti-nutjobs -- of all religions.
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    Ok - my thoughts-
    I do see homeschooling or school choice as a human right. I do see that the state is wanting to take that away.. in some countries they already have.
    It goes back to the thought.. are our children ours to raise as we think best for them, or are they the states for them to raise the way society thinks best for them. If you agree with societies views you are fine.. if you disagree you are in a world of hurt if you are in a country that forces the view upon you.
    I signed the petition on this family and have followed it for years.
    They came into the country legally, and were legally allowed to stay. The Administration stepped in and overrulled a ruling to get them forced out of the country. It is the same Administration that is allowing thousands if not millions of Illegal immigrants to stay.

    Not sure why the liberals are not trying hard to get this family of immigrants to stay in this country... the differences between this family and the majority of the illegal immigrants.. they have a pointed reason to want to stay.. they are Christian..they homeschool.. and they are not hispanic.

    One of their children was also born in this country. Both parents are smart and have jobs and are contributing to society..

    I am not sure I can debate this.. aside from offering information.. it is a close to home issue for me.

    If as a nation we decide that homeschooling or school choice is NOT a human right. It does directly effect homeschoolers nationwide. It sets a precedent that will be hard to stop.

    The father is a Criminal in Germany and will serve time if sent back... If I read it right.. I will have to do a bit of digging.. but I think he will be sent directly to prison whether they continue to homeschool or not.
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    Validating school choice as an option for parents is far, far different from declaring it to be a human right. As I've pointed out before, education is a human right, school choice and homeschooling are not. Millions of people around the world (a lot of them girls) would be happy to have *a* school to attend.

    And I find it very interesting that the ones on the side of this particular family claiming that homeschool is a human right, are the same ones who have argued that marriage is not a human right. Legalizing your choice of school should be a human right but legalizing your choice of life partner should not???
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    I kind of think of the human right as being a "Right to education"...as in we will provide it if you don't use another means. I understand that we have a lot of regulations around homeschooling, and perhaps some controversy over it, but i think that was born out of necessity. Yet ultimately, the human right is one to an education.

    Germany provides an education to everyone....so IMO the issue that they want MORE options than the one they have is not really a human rights issue.

    Sure we may do it differently here, but lets not confuse what the actual right is and its to an education.

    I agree with Stacey, we value choice, but that doesn't make it a human right IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    Validating school choice as an option for parents is far, far different from declaring it to be a human right. As I've pointed out before, education is a human right, school choice and homeschooling are not. Millions of people around the world (a lot of them girls) would be happy to have *a* school to attend.

    And I find it very interesting that the ones on the side of this particular family claiming that homeschool is a human right, are the same ones who have argued that marriage is not a human right. Legalizing your choice of school should be a human right but legalizing your choice of life partner should not???
    Gay Marriage vs School Choice -
    We want the State out of it period.
    I know I have heard Gloria say it many times about gay marriage... Just take the state out of marriage all together.
    So really we are consistant in our viewpoint.

    What about -
    Illegal Immigration-
    Why can some stay and some can't.. are we saying that we don't want homeschooling Christians from Germany that come over legally, but those that come across the border illegally we welcome with open arms?
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    Wait- are liberals anti Hispanic? I'm confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Gay Marriage vs School Choice -
    We want the State out of it period.
    I know I have heard Gloria say it many times about gay marriage... Just take the state out of marriage all together.
    So really we are consistant in our viewpoint.

    What about -
    Illegal Immigration-
    Why can some stay and some can't.. are we saying that we don't want homeschooling Christians from Germany that come over legally, but those that come across the border illegally we welcome with open arms?

    I think the religious people should take the state out of their marriage and let the rest of us keep it. I WANT the state in my marriage...that's what makes it legal. I have no religious component to my marriage and the made-up ceremony in the woods isn't marriage.

    The question wasn't about "should they be allowed to live here", it was "should they be GRANTED ASYLUM?" To that I say no. If they want to apply through normal channels for landed immigrant status I am fine with that.
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