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    Chile's President Sebastian Pinera Praises 11-Year-Old Pregnant Girl For Keeping Baby After Rape









    SANTIAGO, Chile -- Chile's president praised an 11-year-old girl on Tuesday for her "depth and maturity" after she said in a recent TV interview that she wants to give birth to the baby who was conceived when she was raped by her mother's partner.
    President Sebastian Pinera's comments caused anger on social media in a case that has ignited a heated national debate over abortion in one of Latin America's most socially-conservative nations. Abortions, even for medical reasons and in the case of rape, are illegal since Gen. Augusto Pinochet's dictatorship.
    Pinera's government has opposed any easing of the ban.
    "I've asked the health minister to personally look after the (girl's) health," Pinera said. "She's 14 weeks pregnant, and yesterday she surprised us all with words showing depth and maturity, when she said that, despite the pain caused by the man who raped her, she wanted to have and take care of her baby."
    The girl was repeatedly raped over the course of two years by her mother's partner who has been arrested and has confessed to abusing the fifth grader. Her mother shocked Chileans recently when she defended him saying his relationship was consensual. The case was brought to police by the pregnant child's maternal grandmother in the remote southern city of Puerto Montt.
    "It will be like having a doll in my arms," the girl whose face was obscured during the interview, told local Canal 13. "I'm going to love the baby very much, even though it comes from that man who hurt me."
    Chile remains firmly conservative in social matters four decades after the dictatorship.
    The Andean country legalized divorce in 2004, becoming one of the last in the world to grant married couples that right. The Chilean Senate rejected three bills last year that would have eased the absolute ban on abortion.
    Pinera said his government is concerned about protecting the girl's health.
    But experts say the girl's life is at risk and that she is not prepared to take a decision about her pregnancy.
    "At that age the girl doesn't have a capacity of discernment, not even at age 14 would she have the mental and emotional capacity to discern this," said Giorgio Agostini, a forensic psychologist who has worked on dozens of child sex abuse cases.
    "It's very likely that she is saying that she wants to have the baby like a living doll. We've seen this in other investigations," Agostini said. "So what the president is saying doesn't get close to the psychological truth of an 11-year-old-girl. It's a subjective view that is not based on any scientific reasoning to support it."
    Former President Michelle Bachelet, the frontrunner in the Nov. 17 presidential elections, favors legalizing abortion in cases of rape or risks to the health of the pregnant woman or the child. The pediatrician who spent the past several years heading the U.N. agency for women, also referred to the child's case in a recent interview.
    "She's a girl who needs to be protected and therefore I think a therapeutic abortion, in this case because of rape, would be in order," Bachelet told local Radio ADN.
    In Latin America, only Cuba, Uruguay and some local governments make early abortions accessible to all women. Uruguay recently passed a law authorizing elective abortions in the first three months of pregnancy in the most liberal law of its kind in Latin America. Many countries in the region outlaw abortion in all circumstances.


    Well? Praiseworthy or horrific and terribly sad?

    Should this CHILD be not only have attention drawn to her, but be PRAISED for her decision to give birth to a "living doll" of her rape baby? Should her mother even be allowed to be involved in this decision after declaring her 11 year old to have been in a CONSENTUAL relationship with the Mothers partner? Abortion is illegal in her country, keep in mind. Would you seek to find some way to intervene/help this child or counsel her/find a way for her to procure an abortion?

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    She should absolutely be praised. She is doing a wonderful thing and finding some kind of joy and comfort out of a horrible situation. Her mother however should go to jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    She should absolutely be praised. She is doing a wonderful thing and finding some kind of joy and comfort out of a horrible situation. Her mother however should go to jail.
    How can you possibly know this yet? Just because she says she wants to keep the baby?

    There is no way to possibly tell if she can handle this at all..or if she is brave or mature. She certainly sounds like she has no decent support system around her.

    This is a horrific story.
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    Wow. So unfortunate all the way around. The mother, by saying this was a consensual relationship is condoning statutory rape (unless, of course, there are no such laws in Chile, which would be an even greater tragedy). Her decision to keep this baby is really a moot point, since she would not be able to obtain an abortion even if she wanted one. As much as I would love some human rights tribunal to swoop in and intervene on her behalf I wonder if that would accomplish anything. She says she wants the baby, so she claims, and even if abortion was legal who is anyone else to say that she can't keep it? Even IF she was counselled and IF she began to realize that babies aren't dolls and all the responsibility that comes along with having a child, what then? The rapist and his accomplice (the mother) should be charged with statutory rape, if that's applicable by their laws. I would love it if an organization like the WHO would mandate legal abortion in every country for rape victims, but lots of countries just don't see a woman's rights as more important that the rights of the fetus, even if the baby was conceived through an act of violence. It's a pretty effed up situation and sadly I don't think there's anything anyone can do about it.
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    So Gloria, both the mother and daughter should suffer the consequences? The mother is a criminal, the daughter is a victim. Yeah, that's fair.

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    The fact that she is picturing her coming baby to be like a "doll" showes me that she is still a baby herself ~ in NO way capable of being a MOTHER herself! The poor thing probably has no idea of what "Mother" even means with a mother who is willing to use her as a sex pawn! My heart just breaks and I wish that there could be some sort of international intervention for this poor baby. No child should have to carry a baby at age 11. Especially a baby born of incest. And to have her held up as some virtuous brave mature example by this man is just disgusting and self serving in the worst and most exploiting sort of ways possible.

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    Not sure how such a wonderful little girl could come from such an evil mother... If my daughter was raped I would encourage her to keep it.. even if I needed to adopt it myself.

    Murder is still murder.. if her body could physically carry the baby then she should bear it. It isn't the baby's fault his bio-father is a rapist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    So Gloria, both the mother and daughter should suffer the consequences? The mother is a criminal, the daughter is a victim. Yeah, that's fair.
    So another innocent child should be given the death penalty because the father is a rapist? How does that make it better? Why should that baby be given MORE punishment than the rapist, who probably will just go to jail, not die.
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    And if the 11 year old dies trying to birth the baby that too is good and right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    And if the 11 year old dies trying to birth the baby that too is good and right?
    Good and right for someone to die? Of course not why would it? Any more than if you died giving birth. I don't see what that has to do with it. Her doctors didn't say anything about her life being in danger, and with the health minister himself looking after her I don't think that is likely. I would guess if it does become a danger to her life they would deliver the baby early. And what about the mental and emotional trauma of ripping a baby out of her and killing it against her will on top of everything else she has suffered. You don't think that would do some damage?
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