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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    And I'm very grateful that abortion was an option for me. I was happily married, and looking forward to being a mother -- some day -- but the first time I got pregnant was such terribly bad timing it was unbelievable. New job, just out of school, no maternity coverage but making too much to qualify for any kind of aid, working 60+ hours a week and expecting more when tax season hit, at a small-enough company to not have job protection if I couldn't maintain that schedule due to pregnancy. Yeah, that sounds like a perfect situation to have a baby. NOT! Nine months of pregnancy and give birth, just to hand that baby to someone else? NO WAY! Abortion was the best decision, I felt nothing but immense relief, and never think about it except during debates like this. A few years later, we were absolutely delighted to get pregnant with Tiven because we were in a better position, and we were ready to be parents.
    Sounds "Perfect" to me.. wish you had not brought a personal story into it ... However.. You were married.. the child would have had two parents.. You were employed. You did not know you wouldn't be able to work due to pregnancy.. you didn't know you would loose your job.. and again there were two of you. And even if you did I dare say a smart one like you could have found a part time one.
    You aborted because you wanted more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Which children have totally free will?
    Which people are totally free of outside influences when making a decision?
    I agree on counseling.. but I don't see real counseling offered much.
    You don't see a difference between outside influences and what repeated rape does to an 11-year-old?
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    You don't see a difference between outside influences and what repeated rape does to an 11-year-old?
    I was raped once and at 44 am still dealing with the consequences. My friend was raped continually from the time she was 3 until she was 14 by her older brother (same guy who raped me), her life is still in a state of h-e-double hockey sticks and she is now 42.

    Unless you have been raped you really cannot understand what this poor girl is going through. I am generally pro-life but in cases of rape or maternal/fetal health I am for it. A girl (or woman) should never be forced to give birth to her rapist's baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom2robbie View Post
    I was raped once and at 44 am still dealing with the consequences. My friend was raped continually from the time she was 3 until she was 14 by her older brother (same guy who raped me), her life is still in a state of h-e-double hockey sticks and she is now 42.

    Unless you have been raped you really cannot understand what this poor girl is going through. I am generally pro-life but in cases of rape or maternal/fetal health I am for it. A girl (or woman) should never be forced to give birth to her rapist's baby.
    Margaret...I am so sorry for what you have been through.

    And yes, the idea that this repeatedly raped 11-year-old is in a place to make this decision in the public spotlight is ludicrous and tragic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    And yes, the idea that this repeatedly raped 11-year-old is in a place to make this decision in the public spotlight is ludicrous and tragic.
    Except if it is a decision you agree with?
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    Margaret I too am sorry for what you went through. I find it so disturbing that people like Rachel or Gloria think that because they babysat or because they were "mature" 11 year olds once they know how this girl feels or what she wants or what she should choose. Unless they say that they have experienced rape I find it extremely arrogant of them to presume how ANY sexual abuse survivor should feel about anything, let alone about carrying her rapists baby.

    Rachel, this is deeply troubling to me,

    It seems backwards that since this CHILD is now choosing life for her unborn, that the PRO-CHOICERS are arguing with her. Does she have the right to choose or not?
    First off, no "pro choicers" are arguing with this child, this child does not know we exist. Secondly, this child does NOT have any right to choose as she cannot choose abortion in her country. So NO, she does not have the right to choose. So what exactly are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Sounds "Perfect" to me.. wish you had not brought a personal story into it ... However.. You were married.. the child would have had two parents.. You were employed. You did not know you wouldn't be able to work due to pregnancy.. you didn't know you would loose your job.. and again there were two of you. And even if you did I dare say a smart one like you could have found a part time one.
    You aborted because you wanted more money.
    You are not a very nice person, are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Except if it is a decision you agree with?
    Nope. Nobody is looking out for this child. If she said she was aborting I wouldn't be praising her for her brave choice either. She is in a terrible position. I can't imagine presuming to know what is best for her or presuming she is equipped to decide without real help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blather View Post
    You are not a very nice person, are you?
    I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Margaret I too am sorry for what you went through. I find it so disturbing that people like Rachel or Gloria think that because they babysat or because they were "mature" 11 year olds once they know how this girl feels or what she wants or what she should choose. Unless they say that they have experienced rape I find it extremely arrogant of them to presume how ANY sexual abuse survivor should feel about anything, let alone about carrying her rapists baby.
    I just wanted to point out that this is also a personal attack. If you have to experience rape to qualify to debate this topic why did you start it?
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