I don't think that it's true that being born here automatically makes one-pro USA either. I've also seen the mentality among people that are born here that they think the US is crap and they wish they could move.
My point is not "Let's just make any old immigrant President!" Obviously they would have to be vetted, run, be elected, et cetera, just like anyone else. My point is, if a (naturalized) immigrant wants to run and can be elected based on their own merits, (meaning people look at when they came to the US, what their history with the US is, as well as their ideas, their platform, et cetera) then why not? I guess I just don't see how that "leaves us vulnerable" or anyway, any more vulnerable than we are with any other president that we actually vet and elect.
It reminds me of when people were saying that we can never elect a Catholic as a president because they might have a bigger loyalty to the Vatican than to the US people.
I agree with you too that not everyone born here is pro USA either but I liken it to our family relationships. Majority of people tend to be closer to the families they grew up with vs. families they marry into for example. If you were forced to choose we would probably pick our mother vs. our mother in law. Does that make sense?
I'm much more for naturalized citizen who has been a citizen for quite some time. I guess I just figure out a decent line for it.
Good point Alissa. As I said, I think it stinks that those that were "adopted" by the US as babies and young children when their parents came here cannot get to that position but I still don't know how or where we put the line. I don't think having this as a requirement is without some merit.
There has to be some requirement. I dont believe that there is a way to draw the line without leaving somebody ineligible for the position.
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Why can't the requirement be either citizen or naturalized citizen who also earns the trust and confidence of the American people through the campaign/election process (I assume it's a given that if the American people don't trust them and don't trust their commitment to the US, they won't be elected.)
ETA: My point is, I don't think we need a constitutional requirement to protect us from someone who moved here 10 years ago as an adult and has questionable loyalties; I don't think that the American people would elect someone that had questionable loyalties.
Last edited by Alissa_Sal; 09-11-2012 at 11:27 PM.
Being born outside of the US does not mean you are not loyal to the US. Being born in the US does not mean that you are. It is just one safeguard of many that tries to ensure that America is protected.
I am thinking of many movies where the spy has lived in America years and years and no one knows.