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    This is kind of near and dear to my heart. The past few days in Turkey have been fraught with suppressive violence towards protesters.

    When should the international community get involved and what does it mean to "get involved?"

    Here is a clear and concise run down of why the Turkish protests are taking hold so quickly and fiercely.

    https://witness.guardian.co.uk/assignment/51ac8511e4b04bdb0ac16bf1/335850

    10 Reasons Why Turks are Rising Against the Government.

    There is a lot of confusion among the International community regarding what's going on in Turkey. Why is the public so outraged against a government that came to service by democratic election?

    Here is a sampling of what the ruling party AKP is doing to create so much reaction from its own public. (With links to articles)

    1) The constitutional amendment they are trying to pass moving Turkey to a US based Presidential system - This will give AKP another 10 years of electability. Convenient timing as under the current regime Erdogan won't be eligible to run for PM in the next elections. on.wsj.com/OM2UPQ

    2) Restriction on Alcohol use. It started as a bill for a full ban but under public pressure was passed as "restrictions". Oh and did you know our national drink is now Ayran (Watered down yogurt) instead of Raki? (Anice based liquor widely popular in Turkey). Yup cause Erdogan said so. Because with 1.5 litres per capita consumption a year, the Turkish youth clearly needs to be put in an AA program. bit.ly/1aHmKY2.

    3) Turkish Airlines ban on red lipstick for hostesses. bit.ly/165xTnP

    4) Subway authorities making announcements regarding "moral rules"
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    5) Did you know that our PM decides how many kids we should have? The magic number is three. Because clearly there is not enough orphans in the world. bit.ly/18I4sqG

    6) Interfering with the freedom of Turkish Press. We have more journalists in jail than Iran.nyr.kr/xaIf3x

    7) Imprisonment of the Turkish thought leaders with the "Ergenekon" Operation which accuses them of conspiracy against government. We are never told what specific evidence the government has against these people. nyti.ms/15v3We7

    8.) Building shopping malls and mosques in historical public spaces, changing the landscape without asking the public. The monument they want to erect in Gezi Park has religious significance and is something that the public did not ask for. bit.ly/1aPJXHI

    9) For wanting to name the new Bosphorus bridge after a Sultan that the Alevi minority regard as a mass murderer. This is also example of insensitivity to public opinion. bloom.bg/18DlUwh

    10) For meddling with other countries politics and attracting terrorism to Turkey, yet failing to protect its own citizens. Reyhanli attacks were significantly impactful yet got little attention from our government and media. bit.ly/161BBzD

    On top of all of this our PM calls his own people drunks, marginals, the others, the mob who should be hanged.
    What we see is our freedoms eroding under this government. People are speaking up against oppression and for human rights in Turkey. We are the Public.







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    If you want to read more. . . This is a good explanation of what is happening. (in English.)

    What is Happenning in Istanbul? |

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    I have enough libertarian leanings that I dont think we should step in, at all. I see why others want to step in though. I get that. I have watching the happenings in Turkey with such a heavy heart, praying for a peaceful resolution.
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    While I don't think we should interfere, I think a few words from our President and other world leaders condemning this kind of action would go a long way. These days it is hard to keep something like this quiet with the internet and social media.

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    You know, I don't even think they want interference. They are a strongly independent people. . . and they seem to be able to handle it. I have been chatting with my friends and former host- brothers online.

    You know. . . all I can tell you is that the entire protest is so mind-bogglingly Turkish. Super-idealistic and passionate. It's all individuals. And they are picking up the mess and being really kind and civil.

    Here is what my host brother said when I asked him if there were any groups or individuals that were particularly vocal or effective in moving things forward:

    "Nopes. All individuals, no heros or opportunists are allowed."

    I hope it all goes well.

    And I am like you in not wanting to step in, so I guess that is where my question comes in. . . Where is that line?


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    OMG, ITA with Gloria.
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    Same here. Completely agree with what Gloria said.
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    I <3 Turkiye!!
    Spacers, bunnyfufu and blather like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommytoMR.FACE View Post
    I <3 Turkiye!!
    You know, I almost sent you a pm to ask you if you wanted to help me frame this discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunnyfufu View Post
    You know, I almost sent you a pm to ask you if you wanted to help me frame this discussion.
    Aww, thanks for thinking of me. Fortunately, you are much better with discussion, words, and debating. I'm mostly here for entertainment purposes

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