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    It is currently legal to go nude in San Francisco, but they are proposing a law that would require people to wear clothes in restaurants and to bring something to sit on. What do you think? Are you ok with public nudity and would it bother you sitting on a chair or bench that someone was sitting in nude moments before?

    SAN FRANCISCO ? Perhaps it should not be a surprise that San Francisco does not have a law against being naked in public, nor that a small, unselfconscious segment of the city?s residents regularly exercise that right.

    A proposed law would put some restrictions on public nudity in San Francisco, and a ?Nude-In? on Saturday became a tourist attraction. ?This is about body acceptance, not politics,? the organizer said.

    That tiny minority was joined this weekend in the autumn fog and cold by unclothed sympathizers at a ?Nude-In.? One of their objectives was to draw attention to a proposed law ? introduced by Scott Wiener, a city supervisor ? that would prohibit nudity in restaurants and require unclad people to put a towel or other material down before sitting bare-bottomed on benches or other public seats.

    Mr. Wiener said the law was introduced in response to an increase in nakedness in parks, streets and restaurants.

    ?It used to be that there would be one nude guy wandering around the neighborhood and no one thought twice about it,? said Mr. Wiener, who represents the city?s Castro district. ?Now it?s a regular thing and much more obnoxious. We have guys sitting down naked in public without the common decency to put something down underneath them.?

    Mr. Wiener?s effort was destined to grab headlines, but he probably did not anticipate that his legislation would inspire even more people to disrobe.

    ?Wiener might as well have shot lasers and fireworks into the sky announcing that public nudity is legal,? said George Davis, 65.

    A self-described ?urban nudist? who once ran for mayor and often campaigned in the buff, Mr. Davis now spends most afternoons lounging in his birthday suit in a public plaza in the Castro.

    Putting a towel between your backside and a seat is ?basic nudist etiquette,? said Mr. Davis, adding that the legislation requiring it was ?totally unnecessary.?

    Still, Mr. Davis said, the publicity about the proposed law could be credited for the new faces at the Nude-In, which was held Saturday at the Jane Warner Plaza in the Castro.

    Other nearby cities like Berkeley and San Jose have passed laws prohibiting public nudity, but in San Francisco it remains legal. In accordance with state law, public nudity is only illegal when accompanied by ?lewd thoughts or acts? or ?where there are present other persons to be offended or annoyed.? But since state law prohibits police officers from being the offended party, it takes a citizen?s arrest? a rare occurrence in a city that prides itself on its open-mindedness and tolerance ? to take a naked person into custody.

    Many of the people who took part in the Nude-In said that they already used towels when they sat down, and that they thought Mr. Wiener?s legislation was pointless. The event itself was originally organized not as a protest but as a curtain-raiser for the Folsom Street Fair, which spread over 13 city blocks on Sunday. ?This is about body acceptance, not politics,? said the Nude-In?s organizer, Mitch Hightower, 50, who runs a pornographic Web site.

    Nowhere is brazen public nudity more evident than at the Folsom Street Fair, which is billed as the largest leather and fetish event in the world. The gathering attracts hundreds of thousands of people every year, many of them wearing black leather chaps and nothing else.

    ?In San Francisco, public nudity is a big part of a lot of social street events, and that?s a good thing,? Mr. Hightower said.

    Businesses in the Castro are divided over the role that naked people play in the neighborhood?s economic and cultural appeal. Despite receiving some complaints about nudity from business owners, Steve Adams, president of the Merchants of Upper Market and Castro, says he often sees tourists posing for photographs with the nudists.

    ?Nudity really doesn?t impact business,? said Mr. Adams, whose group represents about 300 businesses. ?In fact, it is kind of a draw for tourists. As long as the people who come to look spend money in the neighborhood, that?s all I care about.?

    At the Nude-In, bystanders in sweaters and jackets circled the cluster of several dozen naked people, gawking and snapping photos with their smartphones. Two teenage girls posed with a man carrying a ?Nude Is Not Lewd? sign and wearing nothing more than a white cowboy hat and a pair of worn leather boots.

    ?I brought my out-of-town guests here to show them an ?only in San Francisco? experience,? said Maggie Cahill, 53, a technology manager at a bank who stood scrunching her nose at the scene with friends from Los Angeles. ?Where are the supermodel types?? she asked. ?We want to know why it?s always the people who should not be naked who get naked.?

    Some of the nudists at the rally seemed to already be adhering to the sought-after decorum by sitting on newspapers. In fact, The San Francisco Bay Guardian, one of the city?s weeklies, explicitly advertised its usefulness for just that purpose, printing a special clip-out page in last week?s issue. The page pointed out that newsprint was a 100 percent recyclable seat guard, and in bold type it said: ?If you go bare, put ?er there.?
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    The chair thing wouldn't bother me unless it was cloth and couldn't be cleaned. I think trying to eat with nudist around would be hard, but if they've gone this long without that law, I don't see why they would want to change things.

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    A law against public nudity, proposed by a guy named Weiner. Classic.I don't want to see naked people walking around unless I'm in a nudist colony. I don't care about toplessness (back home women can go topless in public the same places men are allowed), but I don't want to see (nor do I want my kids to see) genitalia. Nope, no thanks. And I sure as hellz don't want my kids or DH or I to sit on something or touch something that just came into contact with any kind of genital fluid.
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    Wow. No nudity here please.

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    Eh, I can't imagine it is that big of a problem. Have you been to SF? It is often cold and humid....nudists would be chilly most of the year....

    Seems like a waste of resources to put another law on the books....nudity doesn't bother me much. I mean, I wouldn't be naked, so worst case my clothes would touch something somebody sat on nude-- but if we're talking park benches and such, birds poop on them, dogs sit on them, etc....humans don't seem much worse, do they?
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    Mr. Wiener... Really???

    Anyways, I wouldn't frequent businesses where there were nude people. Especially not with my kids. Yay for body image and being comfortable in your skin, but that doesn't mean everyone else needs to or wants to see your junk.

    And, if you are naked you absolutely should be sitting on something. It sounds like most nudists know that, but I'm assuming some don't or the issue wouldn't have been raised in the first place. As far as restaurants, couldn't the owners specify whether clothes are required (no shirt, no shoes, no pants, no service)?

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    "I brought my out-of-town guests here to show them an ?only in San Francisco? experience,? said Maggie Cahill, 53, a technology manager at a bank who stood scrunching her nose at the scene with friends from Los Angeles. ?Where are the supermodel types?? she asked. ?We want to know why it?s always the people who should not be naked who get naked.?"

    This quote from the article is about one of the dumbest things I've ever read. I guess Maggie from Los Angeles doesn't realize that most people aren't supermodels.

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    I've been to SF and never saw anyone naked. I can't imagine this is much of an issue except for something that makes a good headline. And I agree with the previous post that it gets pretty cool there and being nude would be uncomfortable.

    I've been to a few nude beaches and have no problem with nudity. I think the form god gave me and others is something beautiful, but a nude person walking down the street, while it wouldn't offend me, would be a huge distraction.

    Side note - we have a couple nudist communities here and one of the them has a bar called "Cheeks"! I think that is hilarious!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kris_w View Post
    Mr. Wiener... Really???

    Anyways, I wouldn't frequent businesses where there were nude people. Especially not with my kids. Yay for body image and being comfortable in your skin, but that doesn't mean everyone else needs to or wants to see your junk.

    And, if you are naked you absolutely should be sitting on something. It sounds like most nudists know that, but I'm assuming some don't or the issue wouldn't have been raised in the first place. As far as restaurants, couldn't the owners specify whether clothes are required (no shirt, no shoes, no pants, no service)?
    Agreed. If someone wants to be be naked then go for it, I don't prefer to eat naked in public and I really don't want to be starring at someone else's junk while try to finish lunch. Further...I really don't care for my toddler to be forced to look at naked people either. I would just choose to avoid those places that promoted nudity. And I find it extremely gross to be sitting on someone else's bodily fluids, yes - it probably happens more often (snot, spit) but other fluids should be contained if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris_w View Post
    Mr. Wiener... Really???

    Anyways, I wouldn't frequent businesses where there were nude people. Especially not with my kids. Yay for body image and being comfortable in your skin, but that doesn't mean everyone else needs to or wants to see your junk.

    And, if you are naked you absolutely should be sitting on something. It sounds like most nudists know that, but I'm assuming some don't or the issue wouldn't have been raised in the first place. As far as restaurants, couldn't the owners specify whether clothes are required (no shirt, no shoes, no pants, no service)?

    Yeah, as much as it would be fun to act all openminded and down with public nudity and all the fact is when I think about sitting in some stranger man's taint funk in a restaurant chair I want to hurl. I agree with Kris.

    For some strange reason, most nudists are NOT easy on the eye. Just a trend I've noticed. I really don't want to watch saggy old ball sacks strolling down the street. Just don't. Don't care if it is "natural", its gross. Toplessness does not bother me at all. But butts and whatnot? No thanks.

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