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    Should this student have been punished for refusing to recite the Mexican pledge of allegience? Just for reference McAllen, TX where this occurred is a border town right across the Mexican border.

    A Texas high school student has filed a federal lawsuit against her school and her teachers after she was punished for refusing to salute and recite the Mexican pledge of allegiance.

    The Thomas More Law Center filed the suit on behalf of Brenda Brinsdon alleging the McAllen Independent School District violated the 15-year-old girl?s constitutional rights when she was forced to recite the Mexican pledge and sing the Mexican national anthem.

    Brinsdon, who is the daughter of a Mexican immigrant and an American father, refused. She believed it was un-American to pledge a loyalty oath to another country.

    Ironically, the school district has a policy that prohibits a school from compelling students to recite the American Pledge of Allegiance.

    The district also has a written policy that excuses students from reciting text from the Declaration of Independence if the student ?as determined by the district, has a conscientious objection to the recitation.?

    ?There is a sad trend in public schools across our nation to undermine American patriotism,? said Richard Thompson president of the Thomas More Law Center. ?But it?s encouraging to see students like Brenda stand up for America despite pressure from school officials.?

    The TMLC told Fox News the district ignored its own rules when Brinsdon refused to recite the pledge of a foreign country.

    What?s most troubling is the different treatment for someone wanting to opt out of reciting the American Pledge of Allegiance compared to someone as a matter of conscience wants to opt out of reciting the Mexican pledge,? spokesman Erin Mersino told Fox News.

    A spokesman for the McAllen Independent School District told Fox News they had not seen a copy of the lawsuit.

    The recitation of the Mexican pledge and the singing of the Mexican national anthem was part of a 2011 Spanish class assignment at Achieve Early College High School. The teacher, Reyna Santos, required all her students to participate in the lesson.

    When Brinsdon refused to back down ? she was punished, the lawsuit alleges. She was given an alternative assignment on the Independence of Mexico. The teacher gave her a failing grade ? and then required the student to sit in class over a period of several days to listen to other students recite the Mexican flag.

    The lawsuit states Brinsdon offered to recite the American pledge in Spanish but the teacher refused her request.
    ?It?s astonishing that this Texas school would deny Brenda her right of conscience and free speech not to pledge allegiance to a foreign country,? said Thompson. ?Too many Americans ? including those of Mexican descent ? have suffered and died protecting our nation.?

    And while she is fluent in Spanish and English and is proud of her Mexican heritage, Brinsdon is a ?true-blooded American,? Mersino added.

    Mersino said it was especially troubling to watch video of students in the class standing up, extending their arms straight out, palms down and reciting the pledge of a foreign country.

    ?It?s disturbing ? it truly was troubling,? she said.
    American Student Punished for Refusing to Recite Mexican Pledge | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes

    Text of Lawsuit
    http://www.thomasmore.org/sites/defa...t%20022713.pdf
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    I think forcing anyone to recite any pledge of allegiance is backwards, nationalist, and dictatorial. Good for her.

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    Ironically, the school district has a policy that prohibits a school from compelling students to recite the American Pledge of Allegiance.
    No ****. Nothing like having a "district policy" that aligns with a SCOTUS ruling.

    Yeah, TX has its own pledge to the TX flag. XH went rounds with his kids' school because they school tried to tell him it was mandatory and they had to say it.

    Thus students can't be compelled to recite any pledge to any flag. Stupid move on the teacher's/school's part.

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    Except if you read the article, she didnt have to recite it. She was given an alternative assignment, which she failed and is now upset about it. Not sure what the school did wrong here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    Except if you read the article, she didnt have to recite it. She was given an alternative assignment, which she failed and is now upset about it. Not sure what the school did wrong here?
    I picked up on that too. I also like how the the article says "and then required the student to sit in class over a period of several days to listen to other students recite the Mexican flag" like having to sit and listen was punishment or something. I know when DH assigns oral presentations, all of the kids are expected to sit and listen to each other. What a violation of their civil liberties!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    I picked up on that too. I also like how the the article says "and then required the student to sit in class over a period of several days to listen to other students recite the Mexican flag" like having to sit and listen was punishment or something. I know when DH assigns oral presentations, all of the kids are expected to sit and listen to each other. What a violation of their civil liberties!
    I don't know. Listening to 20+ kids reciting the same thing individually sounds horrible. I am also curious about the quality of her alternate assignment and if the work/effort was equal to what she was objecting to. Unless I'm greatly mistaken, a project on Mexican independance sounds like more work than reciting a pledge of allegiange.

    I don't blame her for refusing to say it or being upset at watching all her classmates doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    Except if you read the article, she didnt have to recite it. She was given an alternative assignment, which she failed and is now upset about it. Not sure what the school did wrong here?
    I did read the article but I took this: When Brinsdon refused to back down – she was punished, the lawsuit alleges. She was given an alternative assignment on the Independence of Mexico. The teacher gave her a failing grade – and then required the student to sit in class over a period of several days to listen to other students recite the Mexican flag.
    to mean it wasn't really a good faith effort to accommodate. As a parent, I wouldn't accept an alternate assignment which included "watch/listen to everyone else do it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    Except if you read the article, she didnt have to recite it. She was given an alternative assignment, which she failed and is now upset about it. Not sure what the school did wrong here?
    Plaintiff B.B. received a 13 out of 100 on the alternative essay assignment Defendant Santos made her complete. A “13” represented a failing grade. Neither Defendant Santos nor Cavazos explained why Plaintiff B.B. received a failing grade on the alternative assignment.

    Prior to Defendant Santos giving Plaintiff B.B. a failing grade on the alternative essay assignment, Plaintif f B.B. had been performing above average on her assignments in Intermediate Spanish class. Plaintiff B.B. is fluent in both Spanish and English.

    Both the alternative essay assignment and its grading were in retaliation of Plaintiff B.B. exercising her constitutional right not
    to be forced to pledge her loyalty to Mexico.
    I would be upset too if I received a failing grade but those who gave me the failing grade couldn't explain why.

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    I honestly think this whole lawsuit hinges on that alternate assignment. Should she have failed it? Was it something she just dashed off in anger and it was a crap assignment and got a crap grade, or did she put some effort in and do a good job and still failed? Yes. it says that they didnt explain the grade, but I also found it curious that the law suit, that laid everything out in a pretty detailed manner, with dates etc, never stated that she ASKED why she failed. It doesnt say that they COULDNT explain the grade.
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    I am confused as to why the teacher and the principal are named in the lawsuit. The text of the suit plainly stipulates that they were following their training and guidelines of the district, so why are they being sued, along with the district? Is this common practice to sue the employee for following their employers policies?

    Please correct me if I have read something wrong, I could count the number of law suits I have read on one hand, so maybe I missed something?
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