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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Oh, I totally think it is HORRIBLE to not want a nurse or doctor just because of the color of someone's skin. If my child was sick I would want the best nurse possible, regardless if they are Black, White, or purple with pink polka dots. I just think that A. the person has the right to make the request without being charged with criminal neglect. Requesting something is not a crime and B. Once it is known that the patients parent is a racist, it might be in the best interest to move the child because of the unconscious care that the child would receive. The child is not the one who did something wrong.
    I understand better what you are saying. Thank you.

    I don't know that many people who work with little babies in intensive care would ever blame the child because their parents were asshats but it is possible. Human beings get their feelings involved, but I imagine even more care, caution and empathy for the small ones in this situation. I am a polly-anna like that. However if the personal or professional relationship had soured to a point where there was no trust or healthy communication, by all means the situation should change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Oh, I totally think it is HORRIBLE to not want a nurse or doctor just because of the color of someone's skin. If my child was sick I would want the best nurse possible, regardless if they are Black, White, or purple with pink polka dots. I just think that A. the person has the right to make the request without being charged with criminal neglect.

    Are you deliberately misquoting me or have you honestly just not understood what I have written? Nowhere have I (or anyone else) said that a parent should be charged with anything for making any request. I'm talking about refusal of treatment. Clearly. You DON'T think that a parent who refuses treatment which leads to a childs harm (such as refusing treatment for treatable conditions in lieu or prayer or laying on of hands, or refusing a blood transfusion when it was necessary, or refusing to allow a black person to treat their child) SHOULD be investigated? As a mother that is shocking to me.

    You are presenting a debate argument that no one is arguing against as though it relates to the the debate.

    This debate is about a hospital participating in discrimination. Do you agree with this racist parent that a hospital should do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Are you deliberately misquoting me or have you honestly just not understood what I have written?
    I fully admit that I could have misunderstood what you said. I took what you said that you were saying that because they made the racist request that they should be told no, not treated, and then charged with neglect. I obviously strongly disagree. If you were to deny care, as in pick up your child and leave, then you would be responsible for the consequences for that action regardless if the reason was that you disapproved of the care they were receiving or because you did not want a black nurse. The reason would not matter if you refused necessary care. Requesting a different doctor or nurse is NOT refusing care.

    If the patient and nurse or doctor did not have a good working relationship regardless of the reason, I believe it is in the best interest to try to move things around if possible. It is not always going to be possible.
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    Yeah, that's not what she said or meant. Melis meant that if they guy refuses care because of the medical professional's skin color, and his child suffers because of lack of treatment, THEN he is culpable. But no one said anything should happen just for asking about it.
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    I do not see where he refused care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I do not see where he refused care.
    He didn't. It was an IF. IF he refuses care based on race and something happens, he should be charged. That's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I do not see where he refused care.
    Would he have if his racial requirements were not met? They were met (and that is wrong!) but if they said, I am sorry sir, our hospital must follow federal regulation and allow our highly trained professionals to work here in the specialities that they are trained and hired to do.

    Ugh. I am a bit creeped out by the whole thing.

    I think that it is so sucky that we live in a society that has to have laws to make sure that protected classes can do their jobs. And what's even worse is that in 2013 we still have to call on these laws.

    Awful.

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