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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Evolution is taught in schools because it is accepted as fact because it is a scientific fact. A scientific fact being something that is accepted as true. Scientific fact does not have a final determination as it can be proven otherwise. However, it has to be considered as fact at this time because it has been continually proven.
    Evolution has not been proven as fact. I see no problem with teaching about Evolution as long as it is taught as an excepted theory and not as fact.
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    I never said they could promote atheism either. I just said it wasn't a religion.
    See Stacy's quote below.
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    I don't see how you can say that expressing atheism should be unacceptable in a public school.
    I am not talking about not teaching Evolution in schools. I am talking about the teachers that say that if you believe in a God that created the world in 7 literal 24 hour days that you are stupid or a fool. I am talking about the professors that say that if you will not say that you believe Evolution is fact that you fail my class and are no longer aloud to be a science major. I am talking about the teachers that in front of the entire class laugh at the possibility that there is a God that created the world in 7 literal days. (Which is a major religious belief for many people) I do not know what to say if you have not had these experiences other than to say that they are common. No, not very much here in TN, but in NY where I am from particularly on the University level.

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    Oh and there should be no place for mocking any religion in school. But teaching evolution in a science class is not mocking religion


    Oh and i'd hate to remind you but there are tons of christians that believe in evolution. Your christianity is not everyone's chritianity and evolution belongs to NO RELIGION it belongs to the realm of science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    OMG, teaching Evolution is science class is not promoting Athiesm...its teaching SCIENCE...in science class.
    I am talking about mocking any belief other than Evolution. Which is no different that mocking a Buddhist or telling the class that Evolution is 100% not possible as in the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Oh and there should be no place for mocking any religion in school. But teaching evolution in a science class is not mocking religion


    Oh and i'd hate to remind you but there are tons of christians that believe in evolution. Your christianity is not everyone's chritianity and evolution belongs to NO RELIGION it belongs to the realm of science.
    To the first part - If your way of teaching Evolution is to say that it is not possible that there was a God that created the earth, that is promoting Atheism.

    To the second part, I did not say that no Christians believe in Evolution. I know that there are many that do. One-Third of Americans Believe the Bible Is Literally True

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I am talking about mocking any belief other than Evolution. Which is no different that mocking a Buddhist or telling the class that Evolution is 100% not possible as in the OP.
    Like i said, there is no place for mocking any religion in public school. Not sure why you brought up that your science teacher taught evolution though if your only beef is making fun of religions because teaching evolution has nothing to do with any religion nor does it have to do with a belief in no religion. Its science.
    Spacers and blather like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Like i said, there is no place for mocking any religion in public school. Not sure why you brought up that your science teacher taught evolution though if your only beef is making fun of religions because teaching evolution has nothing to do with any religion nor does it have to do with a belief in no religion. Its science.
    As I said in my previous post, If your way of teaching Evolution is to say that it is not possible that there is a God that created the world in 7 days and mock anyone who believes so in class, that is how Evolution ties into it. Evolution is the most common time when if there is/is not a God that created the Earth is going to come up in class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    To the first part - If your way of teaching Evolution is to say that it is not possible that there was a God that created the earth, that is promoting Atheism.
    Agreed, there shoud be no mention of God at all in a science lesson or science class of any sort. In either direction, to say he does or doesn't exist.

    To the second part, I did not say that no Christians believe in Evolution. I know that there are many that do. One-Third of Americans Believe the Bible Is Literally True
    I concede that there is something wrong with a teacher saying "God doesn't exist because of evolution" But that was not clear in the way you originally worded it. The way you first said it made it sound like you had a problem with him teaching evolution...as if that alone promotes athiesm. If thats not what you meant, then thats good we don't disagree then.

    I do disagree with this idea that its "common" for teachers to rip on christianity....especially if this is what you are using as your proof. I think its way more common to have children indoctrinated into christianity in public schools unlawfully than the other way around.
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    Spacers and blather like this.

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    To Clarify - It is not teaching Evolution because many teachers teach evolution in a respectful way all around the country. It is the teachers and schools that take that opportunity to mock all other beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    I do disagree with this idea that its "common" for teachers to rip on christianity....especially if this is what you are using as your proof. I think its way more common to have children indoctrinated into christianity in public schools unlawfully than the other way around.
    We must have posted at the same time. See my previous post.

    In the science field, especially on the University level I do think it is very common. Many who believe in a literal creation and God are laughed right out of class.

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    Teachers Can Mock Creationism - Court - YouTube

    I very much think that it is common for professors or even HS teachers to mock Creationism and a very basic part of many peoples religious belief.

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