Satanists to Rally for Rick Scott - Page 3
+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 39
Like Tree20Likes

Thread: Satanists to Rally for Rick Scott

  1. #21
    Posting Addict Rivergallery's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    9,756

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by smsturner View Post
    No. Because evolution is a scientific, proven fact. People are offended by racism and the awful things that happened in the US because of it. We still teach about racism and slavery because these are actual real facts. I want my kids to learn hard honest facts, regardless of what I believe.
    Well Potter this "evolution as scientific, proven fact" makes me giggle.. Truth is the Big Bang is not replicable, and actually it and species to species evolution are contrary to many laws of thermodynamics.. so we will just have to have a mutual giggle fest.

  2. #22
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    14,461

    Default

    Rivergallery you seem pretty out of touch with what goes on at public schools so it is hard to debate this one with you. Kids don't have birthday parties at school anymore. But I think that you understood Susan's general point ~ I never told my kids to breathe. Does that mean I don't value breathing? Does that mean that by omission I was teaching them not to breathe? Of course not.

    I don't understand your statement about not teaching reading or math. That is the purpose of schools. And public schools are not supposed to VALUE religion.......you know, according to the constitution you are always going on about?

    I disagree with you that working parents have a much harder time imparting their values to their children. I think that that is a very unfair statement to make.
    Spacers, Alissa_Sal and Jessica80 like this.

  3. #23
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    14,461

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Well Potter this "evolution as scientific, proven fact" makes me giggle.. Truth is the Big Bang is not replicable, and actually it and species to species evolution are contrary to many laws of thermodynamics.. so we will just have to have a mutual giggle fest.

    Super! I never said evolution was proven fact. I know its a theory. I just can't imagine being offended by a theory. I don't know who said anything about the Big Bang, that isn't what I believe, but that is great info about it! Thank you!

    I am SO OFFENDED by gravity! Freaking gravity?!?!?! Who does gravity think it is??? Or, That Newton and his Laws of Motion are SO OFFENSIVE and hurtful! I can't believe how those theories looked at me! As$hat theories! Always being so offensive, and people, like STUDYING them, and trying to LEARN and stuff. SO.RUDE, that science. So offensive.

    Its just funny. The idea of offensive theories. You'd have to be super, super sensitive, I guess.
    Spacers and Jessica80 like this.

  4. #24
    Community Host
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    13,521

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by smsturner View Post
    Because evolution is a scientific, proven fact.
    I do think the place to teach Christianity is at home and in church, but I did want to point out that this statement is incorrect. Theory is not the same as fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Kids don't have birthday parties at school anymore.
    This must also very by region. Kids here, even in Public school have birthday parties.

    ~Bonita~

  5. #25
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    14,461

    Default

    They have birthday parties AT school? Jeez. No wonder TN is so low academically What a waste of time.

  6. #26
    Community Host
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    13,521

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    They have birthday parties AT school? Jeez. No wonder TN is so low academically What a waste of time.
    Seriously? I have never heard this POV before. My nieces and nephews go to school in NY (Private schools, with high scores) and I think they still have birthday parties. I would have to double check, but last I knew they did.

    ~Bonita~

  7. #27
    Posting Addict Rivergallery's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    9,756

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Rivergallery you seem pretty out of touch with what goes on at public schools so it is hard to debate this one with you. Kids don't have birthday parties at school anymore. But I think that you understood Susan's general point ~ I never told my kids to breathe. Does that mean I don't value breathing? Does that mean that by omission I was teaching them not to breathe? Of course not.

    I don't understand your statement about not teaching reading or math. That is the purpose of schools. And public schools are not supposed to VALUE religion.......you know, according to the constitution you are always going on about?

    I disagree with you that working parents have a much harder time imparting their values to their children. I think that that is a very unfair statement to make.
    1- I am not out of touch. Different schools do it differently. Our local ps does still have birthday parties at school.
    2- They have no choice but to breathe to live, and I disagree that no one tells them the value of CLEAN AIR.
    3- You don't understand.. not sure how much plainer I can get, our SCHOOLS value math and reading as part of our childrens education, they do not think religion has value enough to teach the child so it isn't taught. It used to be taught and valued, it isn't anymore. Separation of Church and State is NOT in the constitution.. maybe YOU need to reread it .
    4- TIME is important to raising your child, the more time you are not with your child the less time you have to impart your values on them. Simple truth. Does FAIR equal Truth? NOPE, not sure I care if it is fair, it is true.
    DH-Aug 30th 1997 Josiah - 6/3/02 Isaac 7/31/03

  8. #28
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    14,461

    Default

    Why would you think I was kidding? Yes, I would be super annoyed if my sons class celebrated 16 birthday parties throughout the year. It's school not happy hour. Birthday parties happen at home.

  9. #29
    Posting Addict Spacers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    My avatar is the tai chi -- a symbol of the eternal cycle of life
    Posts
    16,467

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    1- They don't teach about Birthday Parties? Most childrens readers have a Birthday Party topic in them, same with Christmas and Halloween. Also most schools allow children to bring cupcakes (store bought these days ) to school for birthdays. Not sure how it isn't taught about.

    2- If it doesn't devalue it, lets not teach math or reading either.
    Fact is the more you VALUE something the more you will teach about it. We want to teach our children the value of safe sex, we teach them about condoms and bcp. The more we value something the more we talk about it.

    3- Why is it then some schools will talk about other religions ie Islam, but not Christianity??? I think if we are teaching our children, then teach them, Why not teach about religion? Simple.. it isn't a value held by the school, and community at large... and thus our government.

    4-.. Children are in school or on their way to school (in "custody of the school") for about 8 hours a day... They are at school more than they are at home, not counting summers, which most children are in daycare, or camps and not at home because those same parents work full time. When do you think they have the time to learn and actually value what their parents value? When the percentage of time spent with family is less than that spent away, it is more difficult to impart to your child your values... SIMPLE MATHMATICS here. Not that you can't, not that your children won't grow up wonderful and be productive members of society, make you proud etc.. It is that it is simply harder... And why? Because of the TIME devoted to things.

    -- Not sure why you disagree with me on this, it is simple.
    -- I do understand why you want the schools to be religion free, but the fact remains by being religion free, they are not teaching religion. Ever hear about the fear of the unknown..? That is why some schools are teaching about Islam, so our "christian nation" is not scared of something they don't know and act irrationally.. same with the theory of sex ed, and on and on. Lets not talk about Race either. Lets not talk about gender preference.. Do you see my point?
    You know, for someone who isn't even involved in the public school system, you seem to think you know a lot about it.
    #1. Schools don't teach about birthday parties. They observe them.
    #2. Math & reading are exactly what public school is supposed to be teaching, and supposed to be valuing. Religion is not a teachable subject in a public school, therefore it should have little to no value in a public school.
    #3 Public schools do NOT teach about other religions. They *do* teach about other cultures.
    #4 Wow. What a horrible insult to working parents. Does your husband believe that he can't possibly impart his values to his children because he works a full-time job? I don't believe that. And perhaps *you* should go back to school, public or otherwise, because your spelling & grammar in that paragraph are atrocious.

    ETA about birthdays: in our school, we have one birthday party to celebrate all the birthdays in that month, and one at the end of school to celebrate the coming summer birthdays. It seems the same in the other public schools in our neighborhood so it might be a district policy, and I don't know about the private schools.
    Last edited by Spacers; 01-15-2013 at 04:03 PM.
    David Letterman is retiring. Such great memories of watching him over the past thirty-two years!

  10. #30
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    14,461

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    1- I am not out of touch. Different schools do it differently. Our local ps does still have birthday parties at school.
    2- They have no choice but to breathe to live, and I disagree that no one tells them the value of CLEAN AIR.
    3- You don't understand.. not sure how much plainer I can get, our SCHOOLS value math and reading as part of our childrens education, they do not think religion has value enough to teach the child so it isn't taught. It used to be taught and valued, it isn't anymore. Separation of Church and State is NOT in the constitution.. maybe YOU need to reread it .
    4- TIME is important to raising your child, the more time you are not with your child the less time you have to impart your values on them. Simple truth. Does FAIR equal Truth? NOPE, not sure I care if it is fair, it is true.
    Meh- the time thing goes both ways. The more you are with /isolate/shelter your kid the more you can screw them up too I've seen it. They don't "absence makes the heart grow fonder" for nothin!

    I guess we just really disagree on all of this.
    Spacers likes this.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
v -->

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Sitemap | Terms & Conditions