School Cancellations (Or other services)

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School Cancellations (Or other services)

If a school (or church, business, other) is going to close due to weather, would you rather they cancel early and take the chance the weather will clear up, or wait until the last possible moment to cancel?

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I would rather they close early when possible and take the chance it doesn't turn out bad.

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I'd rather wait. Not until the very last minute, but certainly as long as possible without having people trying to get somewhere for no reason. School being canceled is a HUGE problem for us, so if it got canceled for no reason, I'd be very unhappy.

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I think they should wait because sometimes it doesn't hit exactly where or as bad as they predict. I do think they should give reasonable notice though... like 2 hours at least.

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2 hours seems good to me!

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I like two hours too. It's long enough that I can usually find someone by the time work is ready for me to not be late myself.

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oh yeah I'm good with 2 hours. I thought we meant like school started in 10 minutes and it gets cancelled lol.

When I was younger our superintendent lived in Rhode Island and would not cancel school until he got into town (from where he lived about 45-1hour drive). There were many times that I was waiting for the bus as my bus came at 615 and my mom would come walking up the street to tell me it was cancelled. That guy was a jerk.

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Here, most schools close the day before, if there is even a hint of bad weather schools are cancelled before the weather arrives. The plus side of this is that you have time to plan. Child care arrangements can be made and such. The negative is that schools are closed many times when the weather patterns change and we are off on a beautiful day. Now, I love having DH home so I don't mind, but each day they are off during the year they tack on to the end of the school year so you never know how long the school year will last.

Today, there was rough weather all day. A tornado went through about a half hour from here and did a lot of damage. There is a lot of flooding and many streets are impassable. My current irritation was with church tonight waiting until just now to close. It was obvious to me that they were going to, but I wanted to be able to plan. This got me thinking about how I would feel if I was a working parent and so was DH. It would be difficult to find child care the morning of a cancellation. I am not sure there is anyone who could watch my children on that little notice.

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I'm not being snarky...but why did you have to wait for church to be cancelled? That is different than school to me.

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"Jessica80" wrote:

I'm not being snarky...but why did you have to wait for church to be cancelled? That is different than school to me.

Because we are involved in the services. I am in charge of the interpreters and DH leads part of the service. If we were not going to be there we would need to get someone to fill in for us. We also help get the word out about the service being cancelled so that people do not show up for no reason.

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I do remember as a kid in NY waiting out in the cold snow for the bus just to find out that school was cancelled. Here it is different. There are no snow plows and people do not have winter tires. If the weather is bad at all, schools will be cancelled.

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Bonita~thank you for the explanation. I wasn't thinking about people involved w/service. Just attending.

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"Jessica80" wrote:

Bonita~thank you for the explanation. I wasn't thinking about people involved w/service. Just attending.

You are welcome. There is a lot involved behind the scenes to make a service run smoothly.

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Our schools never close, but we do have days when the buses dont run. I assume as a parent you could drive your kids into school if you have to be on the roads for work though.

I would say a few hours notice would be good though for most things.

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"ftmom" wrote:

Our schools never close, but we do have days when the buses dont run. I assume as a parent you could drive your kids into school if you have to be on the roads for work though.

I would say a few hours notice would be good though for most things.

I remember the schools always being open in terrible weather even if the buses were cancelled. In fact, being at school when the buses weren't running was great because it was basically a do-whatever-you-want day. On a rare occasion school would close early because of a forecasted heavy snowfall, and in Ontario where I grew up you could set your watch by the forecast. Not so in Alberta! The saying here is...If you don't like the weather, just wait 5 minutes. Smile

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"AlyssaEimers" wrote:

You are welcome. There is a lot involved behind the scenes to make a service run smoothly.

Catholic church...Priest who lives on site. Eucharistic minister (not really necessary..just speeds up Communion) and 2 alter kids. There are 2 readers which can be anyone and piano player and choir. Most of these positions are really necessary to the service just help and enhance so I wasn't really aware how involved other churches are.

Here, if the bus doesn't run...no school.

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"Jessica80" wrote:

Catholic church...Priest who lives on site. Eucharistic minister (not really necessary..just speeds up Communion) and 2 alter kids. There are 2 readers which can be anyone and piano player and choir. Most of these positions are really necessary to the service just help and enhance so I wasn't really aware how involved other churches are.

The differences among how a church is run is limited only by how many churches there are. Our church has a Pastor, Assistant Pastor, dozens of Sunday School teachers, nursery workers, interpreters, youth leaders, ushers, a music leader, someone the makes announcements, deacons, committee members, and others and this is just for a church of about 150. Think of all that goes into a church of thousands.

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So different than what I'm used to! We don't have sunday school we have CCD. It is only on Sundays 1x a month for kindy and grade 1. Grade 2-Confirmation is weeknights from Mon-Wed. No nursery workers. No interpreters. 2 Priests and Sister who doesn't live there. and she runs CCD. CCD teachers are volunteers and usually parents (although I taught in HS and after)

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I don't think our church has ever been closed for services, but I guess we've lucked out and not had nasty weather on a Sunday. When we had the blizzard two years ago, it started on a Tuesday around lunchtime, and that's our choir night - so that was cancelled I think before the snow even started falling. The kids got out early that day, and they cancelled school for the next day. What annoyed me was that I still had to wake up early to call into work to see if we were closed (which we were). They wouldn't make the call when they had us leave early. 20.6" later, we were definitely closed.

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Here in Texas they close things at the drop of the hat. Of course they don't have the equipment to handle very much either, it is hard to justify spending money on equipment that is only used once or twice a year.

Where I grew up in Montana the schools never closed either. The buses didn't always run but the town kids had to go to school because they all walked. It was great for us because we rode the bus Smile

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THey call ours at 5 AM. That works for me.....especially this year with no kids in AM school. I'd hate to have them cancel and get little or no bad weather ~ we head to the beach as soon as school is over so I hate tacking on beautiful summer days in school as a trade off for crappy cold winter days at home!

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"ClairesMommy" wrote:

I remember the schools always being open in terrible weather even if the buses were cancelled. In fact, being at school when the buses weren't running was great because it was basically a do-whatever-you-want day. On a rare occasion school would close early because of a forecasted heavy snowfall, and in Ontario where I grew up you could set your watch by the forecast. Not so in Alberta! The saying here is...If you don't like the weather, just wait 5 minutes. Smile

As a teacher it actually sucks that the schools stay open but the buses dont run. Some schools its not a big deal, as it is only one or two kids in the class, so you can pull them aside and teach them later. However, in some schools you might be missing half your class, or more. You cant teach anything new on those days, but you have to entertain the children that come. Plus, you dont get to make up any of that time to teach things, so you end up cutting units etc. One or two days isnt a big deal, but we have had years here that the buses dont run for whole weeks on end. It is based more on temperature than weather and road conditions. They dont want anyone to freeze to death waiting at the bus stop.

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"AlyssaEimers" wrote:

Because we are involved in the services. I am in charge of the interpreters and DH leads part of the service. If we were not going to be there we would need to get someone to fill in for us. We also help get the word out about the service being cancelled so that people do not show up for no reason.

I don't understand. If church was cancelled, then why would you need someone to fill in for you at church? If you mean because school was cancelled, why wouldn't you just take the kids to church with you? :shrug:

We don't have severe weather here so this isn't an issue for me, but I think 2 hours notice would be good, especially when you know there's a storm on the way; everyone is kind of in limbo to see when & where it's going to hit. There were a few schools in Marin County that closed last year due to localized flooding that closed numerous streets, and they put it out on all the local morning news shows in addition to school district automated phone calls.

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"Spacers" wrote:

I don't understand. If church was cancelled, then why would you need someone to fill in for you at church? If you mean because school was cancelled, why wouldn't you just take the kids to church with you? :shrug:

If church had not been cancelled, but we did not feel that it was safe to make it, then we would have needed to get replacements. With church cancelled, we had to let everyone know it was cancelled.

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"AlyssaEimers" wrote:

If church had not been cancelled, but we did not feel that it was safe to make it, then we would have needed to get replacements.

Really??? You didn't think it was safe enough for you to go, but you would ask someone else to go out and do it for you? That doesn't sound very reasonable to me. Every church I have attended has plenty of people willing to step in & help if someone doesn't show up -- for any reason. One time the priest didn't show up for a service because he was in a car accident on the way, and this was before cell phones so no one knew where he was, just that he wasn't at church. We didn't all just sit around waiting for him; one of the deacons did the service.

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"ftmom" wrote:

As a teacher it actually sucks that the schools stay open but the buses dont run. Some schools its not a big deal, as it is only one or two kids in the class, so you can pull them aside and teach them later. However, in some schools you might be missing half your class, or more. You cant teach anything new on those days, but you have to entertain the children that come. Plus, you dont get to make up any of that time to teach things, so you end up cutting units etc. One or two days isnt a big deal, but we have had years here that the buses dont run for whole weeks on end. It is based more on temperature than weather and road conditions. They dont want anyone to freeze to death waiting at the bus stop.

Aah, see here most parents actually drive their kids to the bus stop. Not because it's too cold or too far to walk; it's because (and this makes me SICK) is that our school buses are not allowed to use their stop arms and flashing lights to allow children to safely cross to get to their bus. Know why? Because, and this is a direct quote from a manager of the biggest school bus companies in the city, "it interferes with the flow of traffic". I was disgusted. Apparently it is more important for rush hour commuters to get to work as fast as possible than it is to ensure the safety of our children who are buses to and from school. It's actually written into the city by-laws.
So, in that regard no kid freezes at a bus stop because hardly any kids are standing outside - they're all in nice warm cars.

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"Spacers" wrote:

Really??? You didn't think it was safe enough for you to go, but you would ask someone else to go out and do it for you?

Our church also has a school and college. There are dorms where people live right there on campus.

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Living in FL, we obviously don't have cancellations due to snow. But we do have cancellations due to hurricanes. Had one this year actually. My district usually cancels school around 6 PM the night before and it is announced via FB, the news, and automated phone calls. Parents have plenty of notice to make child care plans. Our schools are often used as shelters because we live inland and we have lots of families that live in mobile homes or other homes that aren't likely to withstand hurricane force winds. I prefer having notice the night before. Gives us more time to plan our hurricane parties Smile

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Here it has to be called by 5am due to high schools going in earlier than middle and elementary.

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"ClairesMommy" wrote:

Apparently it is more important for rush hour commuters to get to work as fast as possible than it is to ensure the safety of our children who are buses to and from school. It's actually written into the city by-laws.

I am disgusted as well.