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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    This is not a teacher though. This is some computer geek that the school is paying to sit at a computer and look at kid's facebook pages. Not money well spent in my opinion.
    Oh, and I forgot to say that I was responding to this that you posted when I was talking about teachers getting involved in social lives of students:
    It is the school's job to teach not to get involved in kid's social lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    This is an issue that I go back and forth on. In the end, I am just glad it is a situation we are not dealing with right now.

    There is a school here that just provided ipads to all of their students. All of their text books are on the ipad and they take them home with them. Those devices belong to the school, and the school should be able to monitor them. There are also cases of teenagers that are so depressed that they are suicidal. It would be a nice tool for their counsellors to know what is going on with the students. That said, it seems like a horrible invasion of privacy. I think at the very least there should be parental consent involved.
    How can it be an invasion of privacy, Bonita? These are public posts and tweets we're talking about. The expectation of privacy is out the window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    How do you know that? It doesn't take a degree in computer engineering to look at PUBLIC facebook pages and tweets. This could save a kid's life, Gloria. It already has, in fact. $40K is well worth that, don't you think?
    Please, I didn't mean it literally. I'm sorry some contract worker from around the globe. Which probably means someone sitting at a computer in India or Nigeria because they have cheap labor. And we don't know that it has saved anyone's life just because someone talked about suicide on Facebook doesn't mean they were going to do it, and it doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't have intervened either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Please, I didn't mean it literally. I'm sorry some contract worker from around the globe. Which probably means someone sitting at a computer in India or Nigeria because they have cheap labor. And we don't know that it has saved anyone's life just because someone talked about suicide on Facebook doesn't mean they were going to do it, and it doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't have intervened either.
    Your bias is astounding, Gloria. Maybe you should go to the Geo Listening website and read for yourself. What do you need? Proof? A kid's dead body hanging in a closet with a note saying " Nobody listened and nobody cared" before you'd consider that intervention just might be a good thing? And good grief, a child talking publicly about suicide, whether they actually follow through or not, just TALKING publicly about it isn't a good enough reason to get the kid some help?

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    I'm torn on this one. I see the benefit in being to monitor what kids are doing online, watching for bullying & suicide risks & truancy, but that should be the parent's job, not the school district's. But again, this is all on public media, and I have to say that if someone clues me in to the fact that my child is being bullied or thinking about suicide, then I don't really care if it's their teacher or a friend or a contract worker in India. In the grand scheme of things $40,000 for monitoring an entire district's high schoolers is peanuts. That's not even HALF a teacher especially with benefits, and the potential benefits of saving lives & mental health, and also taxpayer money if it can cut down on truancy, I think greatly outweigh the cost. That said, I'm still going to teach my kids to keep their social media as private as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    Your bias is astounding, Gloria. Maybe you should go to the Geo Listening website and read for yourself. What do you need? Proof? A kid's dead body hanging in a closet with a note saying " Nobody listened and nobody cared" before you'd consider that intervention just might be a good thing? And good grief, a child talking publicly about suicide, whether they actually follow through or not, just TALKING publicly about it isn't a good enough reason to get the kid some help?
    I read the article. That is exactly what it said.

    To do the work, Frydrych employs no more than 10 full-time staffers -- as well as "a larger portion" of contract workers across the globe who labor a maximum of four hours a day because "the content they read is so dark and heavy," Frydrych said.
    I didn't say intervention wasn't a good thing. I said spending $40,000 to monitor kid's Facebook pages is not money well spent IMO. Maybe they should hire another counselor at the school with that money to actually talk to the kids instead of just spying on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I read the article. That is exactly what it said.



    I didn't say intervention wasn't a good thing. I said spending $40,000 to monitor kid's Facebook pages is not money well spent IMO. Maybe they should hire another counselor at the school with that money to actually talk to the kids instead of just spying on them.
    So, when a kid posts something publicly on their fb page about beating up another kid from school and his or her friends read it, or the target of the bullying reads it, that's not spying because the message reached the intended audience, but if someone else reads it, anybody else, it's spying? Please elaborate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I didn't say intervention wasn't a good thing. I said spending $40,000 to monitor kid's Facebook pages is not money well spent IMO. Maybe they should hire another counselor at the school with that money to actually talk to the kids instead of just spying on them.
    This $40K is for the whole district! A counselor (who would cost MUCH more than $40K to begin with) would only be at one school, and can only help one kid at a time, and that's only *if* they know what's going on. What about all the other kids at the school who are under the radar? What about the kids at all the other high schools in the district? Don't those kids deserve this kind of protection. And it's not "monitoring their FB pages," which to me means someone looking through pages & pages of posts; it's a proprietary search system that uses key words to filter posts, only some of which are flagged for human review.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    This $40K is for the whole district! A counselor (who would cost MUCH more than $40K to begin with) would only be at one school, and can only help one kid at a time, and that's only *if* they know what's going on. What about all the other kids at the school who are under the radar? What about the kids at all the other high schools in the district? Don't those kids deserve this kind of protection. And it's not "monitoring their FB pages," which to me means someone looking through pages & pages of posts; it's a proprietary search system that uses key words to filter posts, only some of which are flagged for human review.
    Sorry I still don't think that is the school's job or something the government should be paying for. The school's job is to provide an education not monitor outside social activities. Even if they use that money to hire one extra person I still think it would be better spent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    How can it be an invasion of privacy, Bonita? These are public posts and tweets we're talking about. The expectation of privacy is out the window.
    There are some kids that are FB friends with only their peers and not there parents or teachers. (I would not allow my child to do this) They may not want there posts monitored.

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