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    This is kind of a shoot off of the school monitoring thread.

    How much should schools involve themselves in monitoring nutrition in kids diets? I dont mean are they getting any food, more of are they getting good food.

    This is kind of personal for me right now, I am taking a class that looks directly at how foods effect childrens behavior. I also have noticed that some parents are fairly shocking with what they send for snacks to my class. At the beginning of the year I ask for no sugary snacks, and that they send a cup for water. I always have a few students that bring stuff that I would say is not healthy but not horrible. This year (and last year) I have one kid that brings horrible snacks, always full of sugars and food dyes. This kid is super smart, and really sweet, but shortly after snack time he lacks any impulse control. He kind of goes a little wild, and then you can see he is dissapointed that he breaks the rules. I am not sure how much to say to his parents, I dont want to offend, but I also want to see him have great success in all of his school years.

    So as parents, would you welcome observations from teachers if they saw that food was impacting behavior?
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    It's a tough one. I think it's all about HOW you approach it. I would meet with them and say all the nice things about him you can, and that you've noticed a change in his behavior after his snack, and then speak broadly of how you've noticed that exact same effect with other kids, and tell them you're speaking to all the parents about it. Would that work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    It's a tough one. I think it's all about HOW you approach it. I would meet with them and say all the nice things about him you can, and that you've noticed a change in his behavior after his snack, and then speak broadly of how you've noticed that exact same effect with other kids, and tell them you're speaking to all the parents about it. Would that work?
    I agree with this approach. Also, maybe you could put together a list of examples/suggestions and pass it out to all of the parents? I tihnk some people's definition of "healthy" varies, so maybe if you give them some suggestions they will just stick to that list or at least have some better ideas.
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    In the past I have taken that approach, it usually works. I guess my big question, and the thing I would like to debate, is how much as a parent do you want to hear? As a parent I want to know all the teachers observations, the good and the bad. But I have had kids in the past, and DH has them a lot that say "you have them while at school, you deal with any issues" For me that is not the end of the world, I only have them 3 and half hours a day. For Dh I find that mind blowing, he has them most of the day.
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    As a parent I want to know about anything the teacher thinks is affecting my child directly. If my kid does a normal kid thing and gets in trouble and it's dealt with, I don't need to know every detail. But anything out of the norm I want to know about!
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    I have to admit, i do not welcome input from teachers about what i should or shouldn't be putting in my kids lunches.

    I get that not everyone packs a good lunch for their kids....but you know what, I think that's just the way it is. We have to live in a world with all sorts of people who all prioritize the things in their lives differently.

    I would be okay with a general reminder of what is ideal for snacks/lunch and recommendations...things that go out to all students. Even if its a quarterly reminder....maybe emphasize that class runs more smoothly when the kids eat healthy, non surgary snacks.

    Beyond that, i really do not want anymore input or dictation.

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    I have to disagree with Kim. If there is something that is effecting my childs learning, I want to know about it. Maybe the parent is just sending what their parent always sent with them, and they did fine with it. If no one says anything, then how would you know it is a problem. Yes I think it needs to be approached gently, and if they are not receptive then back off, but it certainly never hurts to say something.

    When I was doing my practicum we had 2 brothers in our school who were having custody issues at home. They ended up living at Grandma and Grandpas house, but Grandma and Grandpa were older and had already raised their kids. Although they loved the boys and wanted what was best for them, their hearts werent really into it, if you know what I mean. Grandma would send a can of pop and a chocolate bar in their lunches every day! These were kids who already had behavioral issues due to being recently uprooted etc (though the sweetest boys you have ever met). The principal finally pulled Grandma aside one day when she was at the school, mentioned the problem and gave her some suggestions for easy, healthier lunches. Things changed immediatly! She just needed someone to SAY something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    I have to admit, i do not welcome input from teachers about what i should or shouldn't be putting in my kids lunches.

    I get that not everyone packs a good lunch for their kids....but you know what, I think that's just the way it is. We have to live in a world with all sorts of people who all prioritize the things in their lives differently.

    I would be okay with a general reminder of what is ideal for snacks/lunch and recommendations...things that go out to all students. Even if its a quarterly reminder....maybe emphasize that class runs more smoothly when the kids eat healthy, non surgary snacks.

    Beyond that, i really do not want anymore input or dictation.
    This is what my neighbor has said, but I didnt know if she was a anomaly because she is a registered dietician
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    I want their teachers to be involved and I think general forms about healthy snacks and addressing behavioral issues is great. Like Kim, I don't welcome comments on my child's lunch. I've mentioned here before that DD1 is pretty specific on things she will eat due to her sensory (smell) issues. I pack as healthy as I can but yeah, it is not a perfect lunch most of the time.

    I think this is sometimes something we have to deal with. Life isn't perfect, parents aren't perfect, kids and their eating habits aren't perfect. Most parents just do what they can as best as they can.
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    I do agree that the teacher shouldnt be pushy or lecture the parent, but if one child in particular is having a hard time with his snack, then I think that parent needs to know that. I would want to. So many times we get those forms, and I dont know about anyone else, but I often think of them as applying to other parents, cause we eat pretty healthy, so I can see them being passed over by the parent. However, if you mention it to the parents (and I would do it in the context of noticing the behaviors increase after snack, not as a judgement of the snack) and the parents are not receptive, then yea, I would let it go. There is not much you can actually do about it without the parents on board, so alienating the parents is the worst thing you could do.
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