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    We're still getting reminders sent home about not sending any nut products in with lunches. It's a general note to all parents, but I can't believe that parents still need reminding week after week. Read the labels, people. It's more than just peanut butter.

    Today Claire took a turkey/cheese/lettuce sammy on whole grain, baby carrots, yogurt and a nut-free granola bar, and an apple juice box. And her bottle of water. The yogurt has lots of sugar in it - like 12 grams probably in a serving. That's a LOT. Same withe the juice box. I think I'm going to stop sending the juice and try and find a small thermos that will keep milk cold. She loves milk. I think I will replace the yogurt with a cheese string more often to cut back on the sugar. Thing is, people look at yogurt and think it's so healthy but it has a TON of sugar - the fruit yogurt I mean. Plain yogurt with added fruit is the way to go, but it's hard to get kids to eat plain yogurt.

    Oh, and a bit of a tangent but in my quest for the perfect bento box I found this one. The middle tray thingy goes in the freezer. It has gel inside that keeps the lunch cool. The bottom box collapses down for a sandwich and expands up for salad. It freaking rocks.

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    Ooh, who makes that? Do you have a linky?

    Yes on the yogurt, which we do give to the kids....they are very sugary. We do give yogurt regularly, but no more than once a week. Nathalie would eat yogurt twice a day everyday i think if we let her LOL.

    And i like giving the kids treats in their lunches sometimes. I don't want my kids to think there is anything abnormal or wrong, or even worse feel guilty about having a cookie with their lunch some of the time. Crikey.

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    And I'd be bummed if we couldn't send in desserts for birthdays!!!
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    Here Kim:
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    My point is i don't want the public school system telling me what i'm allowed to and not allowed to feed my child for lunch, or that I must have a lunch approved by their flawed standards each and every single day of school.
    What makes you think the standards are flawed? Perhaps the nutrition standards in your district are flawed, but ours are not. And when I want my kids to have a cookie or a treat, they can have it after school or on weekends. No biggie. Kids are NOT going to miss out on a cookie at lunch if you don't give them that expectation.

    Kim, do your kids prepare & eat the veggies at school? That's an integral part of our garden lessons, the kids learn about how different plants provide different nutrients, more or less fiber, how you can balance flavors so something that tastes bitter when it's raw or on it's own can taste better. If not, then the point in growing them is limited to being a botanical experiment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    What makes you think the standards are flawed? Perhaps the nutrition standards in your district are flawed, but ours are not.
    They sure sound flawed to me. I guaruntee you i could bring a crappy bad for you lunch that would be 'allowed' at your school. Easy peasy. Unless there is a whole slew of things that aren't allowed that you didn't mention. The focus was on sugar and thats about it. Oh and you mentioned chips. Of course there about 50 million other ways to overdose on your salt and fat intake. As Lisa mentioned, yogurts are typically full of sugar, are they banned? What about nitrates and white carbs? Are those banned too?

    And when I want my kids to have a cookie or a treat, they can have it after school or on weekends. No biggie. Kids are NOT going to miss out on a cookie at lunch if you don't give them that expectation.
    I'm not 'worried' that my children won't have opportunities to have cookies. I DO worry about creating inappropriate and unnecessary guilt in children for occasionally eating A cookie, and seeing as including a cookie in my child's lunch is not abusive nor illegal, it is my prerogative to include one when i want to and no school should be telling me I cannot. And if my child chooses not to have cookies in her lunch i DON'T want it to be because my school tried to drill it into her head that doing so is BAD.

    Kim, do your kids prepare & eat the veggies at school? That's an integral part of our garden lessons, the kids learn about how different plants provide different nutrients, more or less fiber, how you can balance flavors so something that tastes bitter when it's raw or on it's own can taste better. If not, then the point in growing them is limited to being a botanical experiment.
    What does this have to do with the debate? We could start a different debate about "Is Stacy's schools plant growing project better than Kim's" LOL I only brought it up because I think its another tool that could be used in teaching children the merits of healthy eating without simply dictating that certain types of bad things(but not all bad things) are bad things that the school wont' allow. I'm not interested in scrutinizing each schools particular plant growing plan school by school. Anyway if you must know, in preschool yes, they cooked with the veggies. I don't recall if they did this last year. But again...not concerned, at least for my own children. They are exposed to more cooking, more sustainable living and home grown food sources than the average child.
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    I agree with Kim that I would absolutely hate a zero tolerance policy in my son's school. I don't mind the school sending home general info and suggestions to the students, and I would even be okay with the teacher bringing up the issue with a parent if it was a really pronounced problem, but the idea that our lunches would be "searched" and certain things would be confiscated and sent back home REALLY rubs me the wrong way. I definitely try to send T in with healthy lunches, and we typically don't do chips or candy or things like that, but I feel like it should be my call when I want to give him a special treat. He's been in school for a month, and so far I can think of two instances that would have violated those rules, and both times I feel 100% fine about what I sent for him. The first time, I sent hummus, veggies, pita chips, and a homemade Snickerdoodle cookie that he baked with his grandma. The idea that the cookie (sent in as a special treat on top of a healthy lunch) would have been confiscated would have made me crazy mad. The other time I sent in a whole wheat tortilla rolled up with turkey, hummus, and fresh spinach, raw strawberries, and some trail mix that included a handful of M&Ms that I assume also would have been against the rules. Seriously, my kid is five. He's healthy, he eats healthy almost all of the time, and for goodness sake, he's not on a diet. He can have treats sometimes because I think moderation is healthier than strict denial and also I'm the parent and I say so. I think I am well within my rights as a parent to decide if I want to slip him 10 M&Ms or a homemade cookie with his otherwise healthy lunch. That would seriously make me nuts.
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    The child in the OP is an extreme case, yesterday he brought m&ms, a bug juice (pure sugar in a little bottle) and a fruit roll up with the tongue tattoos. With this child I wouldnt even worry if it wasnt so obvious. On the days he brings a healthy snack he is super well behaved and focused in the classroom. He is not the only one that brings questionable snacks but he is the only one that reacts to it.

    I have to say that as a parent I am glad my kids school doesnt have strict compliance rules or a zero tolerance on food brought from home. My kids take pretty good food probably 95% of the time, but I do sneak in a treat on occasion. Like the other day DD1 had her first performance in front of the whole school (800 kids) in the worship team where she plays piano, I put a lunch in her bag with a handful of her favorite candy. (BTW notes in 8th graders lunches are "really awkward" in case you were wondering)
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    I agree that the kid in the OP sounds like an extreme case, and the parents may not be aware of the direct effect these snacks are having on it.

    But I don't like zero tolerance, and I don't like the way even on this board people are feeling like they have to justify the treats they send with their kids. My kids eat a balance of healthy and not healthy, and that's the best we can do for now, and they seem just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    We're still getting reminders sent home about not sending any nut products in with lunches. It's a general note to all parents, but I can't believe that parents still need reminding week after week. Read the labels, people. It's more than just peanut butter.

    Today Claire took a turkey/cheese/lettuce sammy on whole grain, baby carrots, yogurt and a nut-free granola bar, and an apple juice box. And her bottle of water. The yogurt has lots of sugar in it - like 12 grams probably in a serving. That's a LOT. Same withe the juice box. I think I'm going to stop sending the juice and try and find a small thermos that will keep milk cold. She loves milk. I think I will replace the yogurt with a cheese string more often to cut back on the sugar. Thing is, people look at yogurt and think it's so healthy but it has a TON of sugar - the fruit yogurt I mean. Plain yogurt with added fruit is the way to go, but it's hard to get kids to eat plain yogurt.

    Oh, and a bit of a tangent but in my quest for the perfect bento box I found this one. The middle tray thingy goes in the freezer. It has gel inside that keeps the lunch cool. The bottom box collapses down for a sandwich and expands up for salad. It freaking rocks.
    I am totally the parent who needs reminders I sent a mix of craisins, raisins and almonds with DS today, to his nut free preschool. They sent them home in a baggie and he informed me that he couldnt have them at school cause they might make other kids sick. Plus, I got a talking too by his teacher. This is our first nut free year, and I have already failed.
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