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School Spankings

Should schools be able to spank/paddle kids with their parents' approval? Is there an age that kids are too old to be spanked or paddled? Should only same sex teachers be able to spank/paddle the kids?

Here is the article that sparked my thought process:
Taylor Santos, Texas High School Student, Left 'Burned And Blistered' After Male Vice Principal Spanked Her (VIDEO)

If this was your kid and you okay'ed the spanking, would you be upset afterwards if they were spanked by the opposite sex teacher and spanked harder than you wanted?

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If I ok'd it I dont think I would be upset, or at least have grounds to be upset. I would not have ok'd though.

We do spank, on occasion. We have some basic guidelines in our house on why and when spankings are acceptable and then they are only given by us.

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If you have given the OK then you can't be upset by it.

The problem with this IMO is that some teachers would abuse being able to spank. Some may be harsher than others too, so it would end up being a disaster if it was brought in here.

I do think something needs to be done in schools to deter the awful behaviour shown by some students. What? I haven't a clue.

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I almost posted that article too but forgot about it.

I don't think she has much to say. She gave the thumbs up.

We don't spank but even if I did I would never give anyone else the permission to touch my child.

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We do believe in spanking, but only if nothing else is working. I would not want anyone other than DH or myself to spank our children. I do think that if someone went clearly over and beyond that the parent has a right to go to the school. Just like if a parent's spankings went over and beyond, CPS will look into that. IMO, there is a difference between a normal spanking and beating the pulp out of someone. Consenting to spanking (which I would not do), is different that consenting to beating someone excessively. IMO, if it is hard enough to leave a bruise, it is too hard.

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"AlyssaEimers" wrote:

Consenting to spanking (which I would not do), is different that consenting to beating someone excessively. IMO, if it is hard enough to leave a bruise, it is too hard.

Bonita, I do agree with this. I'm sure when the mom okay'ed it, she wasn't picturing her daughter getting hit so hard it left bruises. I think she used the word "swat" which was probably what she was picturing. Having said that, I think as a parent you also have to understand that if you okay someone to spank or paddle your kid, they may do it harder or lighter than you personally would. I don't know. I'm probably not the best source on it since we don't spank anyway, and I wouldn't let someone else spank my kid either.

Honest question, because I don't spank. For those of you who do, at what age did you or do you plan to stop spanking? Like when are kids too old to spank? The girl in the article was 15, which seems to me like way too old, but I don't know what "the norm" is.

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I can't imagine thinking it's okay for a teacher (vice principal, whatever) to spank a 15-year-old girl. It seems incredibly inappropriate to me no matter what your feelings are on spanking in general. Yeesh.

Honestly, I also can't imagine giving permission to another adult to spank my child. We don't spank, but I think even if you do, it seems very weird to me to allow someone else to do it. I can't really fathom it.

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"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

Honest question, because I don't spank. For those of you who do, at what age did you or do you plan to stop spanking? Like when are kids too old to spank? The girl in the article was 15, which seems to me like way too old, but I don't know what "the norm" is.

I am not sure. I think at age 15 there are other more effective ways to discipline. I would guess as a result of this that school will change policies. I do not think that a parents right to spank should be taken away. Sometimes it is the best way to salve the situation. However, in a school setting, I do not think it is a good idea. There is too much that could go wrong. In the school that my daughter used to go to, what they did is if there was a discipline issue they called the parents to the school in the middle of the day (major pain for the parents) and had the parents take the child home and discipline them. I would rather this then have the school spank my child.

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I don't know. Jason's preschool teacher uses timeouts but I think I'd trust her to know when it [RIGHT]w[/RIGHT]as acceptable and when it wasn't. She would be one of the few people besides their grandparents I'd allow to spank them. I think 10 would be my cutoff for spankings. I didn't get any after age 5 but I was pretty well behaved. There is no way in hell I'd allow anyone to spank them at 15 including my husband.

eta-I'd be majorly pissed if a man spanked my teenage daughter. There is absolutely nothing OK about that.

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eta-I'd be majorly pissed if a man spanked my teenage daughter. There is absolutely nothing OK about that.

Yeah - I'm not saying that it was definitely sexual for him, but the idea of a grown man paddling a 15 year old girl seriously grosses me out.

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Last week I had a student ask me if I went to school when they could still spank students. I told them in some states they still can if your parents give permission. They didn't really understand this concept.

Anyway...I haven't really spanked. Maybe a few times when the girls were little. I don't think it is ever appropriate for a school to make this decision. Yes, I know they need parents' permission but it shouldn't be allowed with or without parental consent.

15? Wow! DD1 turned 16 two days ago. I just can't imagine. The court system wouldn't be allowed to dole out that punishment, so why should a school? There are other ways.

In addition to the bruises, does she have any psychological issues yet?

Taylor Santos, a high-achieving sophomore at Springtown High School, said she didn't know that a classmate had copied her homework, but the school assigned both students to two days of in-school suspension. Taylor volunteered to take a paddling instead, to avoid missing any classes. Texas is one of the 19 states that still allows spanking in school, but it requires that parents give permission, which Santos' mother, Anna Jorgensen agreed to.

Really, 2 days ISS or a paddling is the punishment for cheating?

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She lied about it. I bet that's what really triggered the harsh punishment.

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I don't think the parents can complain, because they did give permission. And if the spanking was in replacement of a suspension, I wouldn't expect it to be a little swat. A suspension is a pretty big punishment, so I would have expected a "big" spanking.

However, I would never give permission for someone else to spank my children. We do spank on occasion, but when and why is a decision for us as parents to make not teachers/babysitters/etc.

And 15 is WAY to old for spanking, especially with a male teacher and a female student.

We do spank but only when they are smaller. I can't remember the last time I spanked my 7 year old.

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"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

Bonita, I do agree with this. I'm sure when the mom okay'ed it, she wasn't picturing her daughter getting hit so hard it left bruises. I think she used the word "swat" which was probably what she was picturing. Having said that, I think as a parent you also have to understand that if you okay someone to spank or paddle your kid, they may do it harder or lighter than you personally would. I don't know. I'm probably not the best source on it since we don't spank anyway, and I wouldn't let someone else spank my kid either.

Honest question, because I don't spank. For those of you who do, at what age did you or do you plan to stop spanking? Like when are kids too old to spank? The girl in the article was 15, which seems to me like way too old, but I don't know what "the norm" is.

The oldest we have spanked is 6