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Segregated Dances

Georgia HS students organize first integrated prom - 7NEWS Boston News WHDH-TV 7NEWS WHDH.COM

Since the dance is privately funded should they be allowed to continue having a "white only" prom and a separate "integrated" prom?

Should the school system look to having a school sponsored prom to help end this and have all students at the same prom?

Does this stuff really happen in 2013? Really? Smile

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I think the school needs to sponsor the integrated prom.

For the private ones. . . you can't make people behave like they should. Private people hosting a party don't have to invite anyone they don't want to.

Amazing that this is still an issue.

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I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

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You know, I technically knew this stuff existed still but it completely floors me to see it in my face like this. That there are kids who still do separate events based on race.

I think the school needs to sponsor a prom for all and stop wiping their hands on the issue.

I know we can't stop the private events...private is private after all...I found the comment that they were tearing down posters for the integrated prom at the school to be so sad.

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I also think there should be a school sponsored prom that is open to everyone.

Believe it or not, it does really still happen here. I was very shocked having grown up in NY, to move here and see how much racism there still is. Towns are very divided. We living in a Black part of town (we are white). If my girls went to the public schools here they would be treated very badly. One of my neighbors told me that when his daughter went (also white), she was the only white kid in the class. The other students would say things like "I'm not going to sit next to that white girl". On the other hand, the schools that DH works at a little ways a way are all white. Maybe a hand full of Black students in schools of thousands. It would be very unsafe for a Black person to go to some of the "Back in the Hills" parts of TN or GA.

One of my first exposures to this was in college. My roommates actually believed, and their churches taught, that it was a sin to date or be attracted to a Black person. I was in so much shock, that I did not think we would ever get past it. It is just so different that I had ever been taught or believed. Another (cuter) experience we had was when Alyssa was a baby and we went to the WIC office. She having blond hair and blue eyes was in a room full of Black people. One little boy came up to her in such wonder and touched her hair like she was the first white child he had ever seen.

I will say that this is changing fast. In the 12 years that I have lived here, I have seen a lot of improvement in this area, but there is still a long way to go. Joint Prom would be a great place to start.

- I just remembered another example. When we were looking to buy our house, if we were going through a realtor, we were not allowed to meet or see the owners. Until recently they had a huge problem with people not being willing to sell their house to a person of a different race or it being written into the contract that they could only sell their house to a person of the same race. This of course is not allowed now if it can be proven that is the reason.

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Of course, we still have some of that here...places where the majority of the population is Caucasian or not. I'm not saying this is a "southern" thing...but I definitely think it's reacted to differently here. My town is heavily Caucasian and of Christian beliefs but not why I choose to live here...I just grew up here and I'm comfy here. Our "joke" is that we live in the most diverse neighborhood in town as my small street has an AA family, a SS couple and around the corner is an Asian family. :). I do miss diversity of city being here but I the quiet that is here that I didn't get in the city. A

I know a few years ago a nearby town had an issue with a seller not wanting to sell their house because the person was AA and there was this old town bylaw for this section that had not been amended that the seller was using as an excuse. It made me very sad to see this. Not so much the law from 1912 that most people had forgotten about but that someone felt the need to be so awful.

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Well thank God I don't live in Georgia! I know this stuff exists everywhere, as I have experienced it personally, but for it to still be this blatant is surprising to me.

My brother and his wife just spent 4 years in Louisville, KY, where it is also very segregated in terms of neighborhoods (everyone knows that there are white neighborhoods and there are black neighborhoods and the opposite race for the most part stays out of the other races "territory"), however, their public schools are Desegragated, meaning that your children don't necessarily go to the school closest to you. Your kids can be taken by bus up to an hour away to attend whatever school needs that race of child to meet the desegragation requirements of each school (certain percentage of each race) and your kids might all go to different schools for this reason, even though they would normally be in the same school. When I heard that, it was crazy to me, but at least the city/schools are trying to do something to combat segregation, instead of just sitting back and staying out of it like they are doing in Georgia.

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When I first came to Houston, I LOVED the diversity. It was so different from California where I came from. I have lived in several different neighborhoods and parts of town and all were so racially diverse. I once tried out a church that someone recommended and noticed immediately that it was almost all white people. I immediately said "no thanks" (in my head) and moved on. For a church to exist in such a diverse community and yet be so dominated by one race just sets an alarm off in my head. I have never worried about my kids here because there are seemingly just as many mixed kids as there are any other race...and as much as I hate Houston sometimes for the crappy weather...it would be hard for me to leave the diversity that exists here.

I feel sorry for people that live in this Georgia town...but good for those girls for trying to do something about it.

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Who the hell is raising those kids to even think this is acceptable? Shame on those parents.

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Probably the same parents who fund the private parties. :/

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"SID081108" wrote:

When I first came to Houston, I LOVED the diversity. It was so different from California where I came from. I have lived in several different neighborhoods and parts of town and all were so racially diverse. I once tried out a church that someone recommended and noticed immediately that it was almost all white people. I immediately said "no thanks" (in my head) and moved on. For a church to exist in such a diverse community and yet be so dominated by one race just sets an alarm off in my head. I have never worried about my kids here because there are seemingly just as many mixed kids as there are any other race...and as much as I hate Houston sometimes for the crappy weather...it would be hard for me to leave the diversity that exists here.

I feel sorry for people that live in this Georgia town...but good for those girls for trying to do something about it.

What part of CA are you from?

As for churches, it doesn't bother me so much because I feel welcome at most of the churches in the community, but they tend to self-segregate so it just becomes a matter of the service that most meets your personal religious needs.

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Oh good lord. Just disgusting. And how horrifying for the parents to all approve and fund it. How do we have things like this happen and then turn around and say things like affirmative action aren't important anymore?
Like you Jessica, I KNOW it happens, but having it pop up right in your face sometimes is still a shocker. The school should def do a integrated prom. And they aren't even supporting these kids trying to raise the money for it?? I want to slap them. How DARE they, as public school officials, not do everything they could to stop this every year!?

We can't make people be decent human beings, but we should insist on it when it comes to our public school employees! We pay them. How can this not be an issue with the bullying laws going around?

We can't make these people that sponsor the prom be decent human beings either, but we can make it harder for them to do it. I wish we could annoy the hotel they would be using until they wouldn't agree to hold it anymore. Any public business that would endorse and allow that, shouldn't be in business.

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How is it bullying if both sides WANT it that way?

I mean, I'm not for it, but I also can't get behind calling it bullying if the majority is happy with it.

I mean, this is why the south is so looked down upon by so much of the country. This is why so much of the country thinks of the south as such a backward place. Because, frankly, it is.

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I am in the shocked this is still happening camping. The school I graduated from had no black kids the year I graduated, but we had a very big population of Hispanic students (almost 35% of my class). I did not see them as being treated any differently, but I may have missed a lot.

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In my opinion, it is no more right to judge a whole region of a country by the actions of a few, then it is to judge a whole race of people by the color of their skin. Yes, there are prejudiced people in the South. There are also people who are not prejudiced in the South, and there are prejudiced people in the North.

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"ethanwinfield" wrote:

What part of CA are you from?

As for churches, it doesn't bother me so much because I feel welcome at most of the churches in the community, but they tend to self-segregate so it just becomes a matter of the service that most meets your personal religious needs.

I moved here from Huntington Beach. Prior to that I lived in Valencia for 6 years (40 miles North of LA). In Huntington Beach, especially, there was definitely outward racism. I worked right by the pier and had coworkers say things like "how disgusting" if a mixed couple would walk in to our store (which was very rare). There are also a fair amount of white supremecists that call HB home...we had them coming in on a regular basis.

I agree that not all of the south is prejudiced (obviously) but I do think you find it much more prevelant in the south than in other parts of the country, and you can't ignore that fact.

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Where exactly is this so-called 'private' event being held?

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"SID081108" wrote:

I agree that not all of the south is prejudiced (obviously) but I do think you find it much more prevelant in the south than in other parts of the country, and you can't ignore that fact.

I can agree with this. That does not mean however, that the entire South is backwards.

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When I said backwards I wasn't just talking about prejudice, I was also talking about education, eating habits, obesity, world view, average marrying age, etc etc etc. Sorry if I wasn't clear. And of course not EVERY person is, I was absolutely just speaking as a general rule. I'm fine with being called judgmental for that. I lived in Alabama (rural) for a summer and traveled around enough of the poor parts of the south to feel fairly confident in my opinion. I've travelled around the entire country and been to every state but Hawaii, there is nothing like the deep, rural south for backwardness.

I bet if you asked 100 people what state the above event occured in 99 would guess one of three. And be right.

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"SID081108" wrote:

I moved here from Huntington Beach. Prior to that I lived in Valencia for 6 years (40 miles North of LA). In Huntington Beach, especially, there was definitely outward racism. I worked right by the pier and had coworkers say things like "how disgusting" if a mixed couple would walk in to our store (which was very rare). There are also a fair amount of white supremecists that call HB home...we had them coming in on a regular basis.

I agree that not all of the south is prejudiced (obviously) but I do think you find it much more prevelant in the south than in other parts of the country, and you can't ignore that fact.

No ****? I graduated from Saugus High School. I moved there my senior year after leaving a much more diverse area (different state). Even at 14 - 18, people are veeerrrrryyyy different regarding racial/ethnic/ses attitudes.

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I live in the south, and I will say that I'm shocked to discover that there are still segregated school events taking place. I truly did not know that. I really can't imagine living near and associating with people that felt that was an acceptable practice.

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So funny how I live in the southern most state and yet FL is not considered part of "The South" iykwim. It's a real mixing pot here, I don't see much discrimination anymore. Some of my best friends in middle school were of a different race. In certain parts of FL it might still happen, but it's definitely not the majority of the state.

So sad that it's still going on. I just don't get it.

When I lived in SC for a period of time, at least the city I lived in, it was pretty rampant. As a result, there was also discrimination against whites by blacks, I guess because they got tired of it and decided to give as good as they got. If you went to a certain area of town and tried to buy something in a store there, they would refuse to sell you anything if you were white (a friend experienced it, not me). That was back in 1994, though. I can only hope it's changed since then.

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"FLSunshineMom" wrote:

So funny how I live in the southern most state and yet FL is not considered part of "The South" iykwim. It's a real mixing pot here, I don't see much discrimination anymore. Some of my best friends in middle school were of a different race. In certain parts of FL it might still happen, but it's definitely not the majority of the state.

So sad that it's still going on. I just don't get it.

When I lived in SC for a period of time, at least the city I lived in, it was pretty rampant. As a result, there was also discrimination against whites by blacks, I guess because they got tired of it and decided to give as good as they got. If you went to a certain area of town and tried to buy something in a store there, they would refuse to sell you anything if you were white (a friend experienced it, not me). That was back in 1994, though. I can only hope it's changed since then.

Probably due in part to all those retiree Snowbirds who spend their winters in FL! Wink Seriously, when I lived in Ontario it seemed like every middle-aged/retired couple spent a good 3 months or more in FL every winter.

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"FLSunshineMom" wrote:

So funny how I live in the southern most state and yet FL is not considered part of "The South" iykwim.

Hawai'i is even more southern than Florida and it's also not considered part of "The South" either, LOL.
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"ethanwinfield" wrote:

No ****? I graduated from Saugus High School. I moved there my senior year after leaving a much more diverse area (different state). Even at 14 - 18, people are veeerrrrryyyy different regarding racial/ethnic/ses attitudes.

Small world!! I went to college at The Master's College, in Placerita Canyon. Even after I moved away my brother and his family lived there for a few years, so I've been back to visit several times. The only thing I miss from there is the gorgeous weather. Wink

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"FLSunshineMom" wrote:

It's a real mixing pot here, I don't see much discrimination anymore.

Maybe you just don't recognize it when it is staring you in the face. Or coming out of your mouth.

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"blather" wrote:

Maybe you just don't recognize it when it is staring you in the face. Or coming out of your mouth.

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