You're listening to the radio or your ipod or whatever - there's a song you really dig because the beat/music is your thing. But, the lyrics are a bit or a lot sexist, or even border on rape-ish. Like, Blurred Lines is pretty controversial right now (as in the link below). What do you do? Listen to music because the beat is catchy and ignore the lyrics or just refuse to listen altogether? Do you turn the station when the kids are in the car with you so they don't hear the words?
Is it ok to like songs you find sexist? | Q with Jian Ghomeshi | CBC Radio
This is a small excerpt from the article, but there was lots of video clips in it and I couldn't copy/paste it all:
CBC Music's Andrea Warner and Frannie Kelley, NPR Music's rap and R&B editor, take opposing views as to whether Blurred Lines is actually sexist ... and how feminist music lovers should respond to songs with questionable lyrics.
Warner argues that we've "inherited this view that women are props, and sometimes naked props," and explains why the song, though catchy, is troubling.
Kelley counters that the song is a realistic portrayal of sexuality, and says the issue is more about musical freedom than misogyny.
"We have to give people freedom to joke around and play with these lines," she said.
Responding to Robin
The song showcases the frustrations of a man who can't seem to tell if a "good girl" is interested in his advances.
I hate these blurred lines!
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
But you're a good girl!
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead, get at me
Several critics of the song have created spoof versions. A group from Halifax points out that blurred lines can be cleared up by asking for consent.
I have to admit that I LOVE Blurred Lines, the beat is super catchy. Dh was the one that pointed out what the lyrics are, and we dont let the kids listen to it. But if it comes on and I am without kids I crank it way up!
As to the actual debate, I do not normally like songs that treat woman as objects. As a family we do try to be really careful with what our kids listen to as I think a lot of songs send messages that are not in line with our belief system. But as my oldest is in her teens now she really does like listening to country music and we are expanding what we listen to quite a bit
Molly, Morgan, Mia and Carson
I think a great deal of rock & roll is sexist, and that's just how it is. If you like a song, you like a song. It's okay to like what you like. Having your kids listen to it is another issue and the best thing you can do is talk about it with them when it comes up.
The link you posted made me laugh though...I went to high school with Jian Ghomeshi. The last time I was in Toronto I was waiting at the airport and they kept running some interview he did with Shirley Jones on the tvs in the lounge. Very surreal.
After reading this today we were in the car and Carson starts singing in a really deep voice "I wear your Grandpa's clothes, I look incredible" Pretty funny
Molly, Morgan, Mia and Carson
Awwwww we be bumpin it in our family. Our kids don't understand half of the lyrics and when they do we talk about them. I would never, ever, shelter them from what their peers are doing ~ they hear half of this stuff in school and at the gym.....
the other night I let my son have his "curse time". He blushed and said "Stupid. I hate you. Dumb. Shut up". At 6.5 I'm pretty cool with that being his entire come to mind "cure word" list.
We have great dance parties in our basement. The kids love "Call me Maybe", "Dynamite", Ice Ice Baby", and other relatively innocuous songs. They love the one in the OP, so do I. I admit that I didn't even known the words......we are too busy laughing and dancing to really hear them. This just isn't a trigger point for me.
I'm not going to be that mom who stigmatizes music and finds my kids sneaking it behind my back. I;m actively looking for a hip hop class for my 5 year old as she so wants to go to dance party classes like Mom.
People want to rape women because they are rapists. Because they are ill. Now, hardcore ugly stuff? Just doesnt appeal to me. Are there sexist undercurrents in ALL music? Of course. Its prevelant in country, bluegrass, pop, R&B, you name it. Talk to your kids. Like anything.
I love this song. I guess I never saw the "rapey" side to it. I wasn't taking the lyrics that way.
Like Melissa, we listen to pretty much everything. I did draw the line at "Blow my whistle" or whatever it's called because the littlest kept singing the words and it just sounded weird from a 3 year old. That kid loves "Call Me Maybe", lots of Taylor Swift (meh to me)and knows more pop songs than I do now.
I grew up singing Madonna and Paula Abdul and what not. I had no idea what half the stuff I was singing was about. My first tape I bought was Def Leppard because I loved "Pour Some Sugar on Me". Yep...I was 8. No clue what it was about.
Mom to Elizabeth (6) and Corinne (4)
Makes me think of last summer.
Hubby was travelling and heard FloRida's Whistle song. There is a lot of catch-y whistling, but ultimately is about bj's. He didn't hear the words at all and told me to look it up and play it for my 4 year old daughter who loves whistle songs.
What a funny conversation that was!
I have made HER whistle song Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zero's "Home." And that is still questionable, but she has no idea and won't have any worries about that till she's older.
Here is our whistle song:
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Am I the prude here?
I have never heard of this song before today so I looked it up on Youtube. Let's just say the barebreasted women are the least offensive parts of that video. I have no desire to listen to the song again.
Last year the dance club at my kids' school, not in an English-speaking country, danced to My Humps. Are the lyrics offensive or sexist? Not really. But it is completely inappropriate for small children. There is so much good music out there that is appropriate, why not choose one of those instead?
I don't exactly shelter my kids, but I do make conscious decisions to listen to music that they are old enough to discuss. I love Salt'n'Pepa but I don't think my kids are old enough to chat about "Let's Talk About Sex" in any but the most general terms.
Sometimes I enjoy a song more than I would if I really thought about the lyrics. Like Sex and Candy by Marcy Playground. But if I knew the lyrics beforehand I probably wouldn't be able to enjoy the song.
You just made me laugh because I sing Let's Talk About Sex to the kids but I do it when I'm packing their snack for school, and I sing Let's Talk About Snacks. Juliet sings along. They've never heard the real version!
Let's talk about snacks, baby, let's talk about you and me.........
When I was a kid and I listened to songs with sexual lyrics I just glossed over it or assumed they meant something else. I remember listening to Paul Simon's "Duncan"...
Couple in the next room
Bound to win a prize
They've been going at it all night long
I seriously had no idea what he was talking about! lol I think I thought they were having some kind of contest.