Shelter-in-place order with kids at daycare

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Shelter-in-place order with kids at daycare

The Chevron refinery in Richmond, CA is on fire right now & has been for about an hour. The closest towns are under a "shelter-in-place" order, meaning to close & seal all doors & windows, bring pets inside, turn off air conditioners & vents. A co-worker of mine just sent an email raging about her child's daycare center. She showed up to pick him up and they refused to open the door, motioning toward a sign in the window that said they were following the shelter-in-place order. She said she stood out there with ash falling on her, screaming at them to open the door, and they didn't. So she's sitting in her car until the order is lifted and the daycare center will release her child.

I think that's great, although they probably should have called all parents to tell them not to come. The authorities are saying it's especially important for the elderly, people with breathing problems, and children, to stay sheltered inside. Imagine if they opened the door for every single parent to come in, and to go out, exposing those kids to whatever junk is blowing around in the air. My friend says when they let her child out, she's not going back to that place that is holding her child against her will. Your thoughts?

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I'm sorry for your co-worker. I don't know how I would feel if it was my child locked inside.

I agree with the decision of the daycare. Not letting anyone in or out is really the best choice for all involved. I was in lock-down situation literally 5 minutes before the dismissal bell. Can't let students out or parents in. Period. Yeah, some whine, but in that situation there was an armed gunman (just robbed the liquor store and was hiding). 40 minutes later we were allowed to leave.

All that pollution in the air? Yeah, I wouldn't want my kids to breathe that in.

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DH works at a school and has seen similar problems with tornado warnings. As a parent, I can see wanting to be with my child during a crisis. However, what is best for the child is for them to stay put until the danger is past as hard as that is too do.

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I agree that the daycare should follow the rules. Opening the door to every parent would mean there is no lockdown or safety rules being followed and therefor the whole safety plan is rendered pointless, opening up all to injury.

Sorry for your friend, but I think she is just being emotional, understandably so. She should rather appreciate their efforts though.

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"ethanwinfield" wrote:

I'm sorry for your co-worker. I don't know how I would feel if it was my child locked inside.

I agree with the decision of the daycare. Not letting anyone in or out is really the best choice for all involved. I was in lock-down situation literally 5 minutes before the dismissal bell. Can't let students out or parents in. Period. Yeah, some whine, but in that situation there was an armed gunman (just robbed the liquor store and was hiding). 40 minutes later we were allowed to leave.

All that pollution in the air? Yeah, I wouldn't want my kids to breathe that in.

This, but at the time I'd feel exactly as your friend does. I have a nanny now, but when our boy was on base for daycare, it always freaked me out because if I was a terrorist, that would be the first place I'd visit. It would literally have more effect than doing something to our flight line. I'd want them to follow the safety procedures for everyone and not let anyone in instead of me getting to my child and opening up the whole place for whatever was supposed to be locked up. But not at that moment or probably not for a long time afterwards would I appreciate it.

I do have to say that since they have fire drills twice a month, I wish they'd schedule them during the day and not at pick up time. They can't release children even during a drill and once the parent walks through the doors, they have to play the game too. It's miserable being in the Mississippi sun in unifrom after a 10 hour day just standing there holding your child while they do accountability.

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I agree that I would probably be just as upset because you always want to be the one with your child in an emergency but I would also be more upset if the day care opened for everyone during something like this.

A few years ago, there was a freak snowstorm that prevented the elementary kids from taking the bus home until about 6pm. So many parents were livid. Really 3 extra hours in school with activities and snacks is going to get you mad? You would rather that they risk slippery roads?

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"Jessica80" wrote:

I agree that I would probably be just as upset because you always want to be the one with your child in an emergency but I would also be more upset if the day care opened for everyone during something like this.

A few years ago, there was a freak snowstorm that prevented the elementary kids from taking the bus home until about 6pm. So many parents were livid. Really 3 extra hours in school with activities and snacks is going to get you mad? You would rather that they risk slippery roads?

Parents were livid? lol Imagine how the teachers felt!

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Our old house, that we no longer live in just went through this. A transformer recycling plant went up in flames last week and they did the same thing. If we had been there though, the same thing would have happened. Where the kids went to daycare would have also been subjected to the shelter-in-place order. I agree with them not opening the door. I do think they should have tried to make an effort to call the parents and let them know they should not come get their kids and also just to reassure the parents that they were following protocol and everyone was safe.

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Update: It turns out that the daycare *did* send a text to parents, which she didn't get because she was on BART, and then she didn't check her phone in the few minutes between the station & daycare. Or, apparently, in the time that she was sitting in her car venting about it online! The text said they would feed the kids dinner & then evaluate the situation. The decision was made to release all the kids at once at 8pm, so the parents who still had kids at the daycare gathered and the daycare had all the kids ready to go before they opened the door. I just can't fathom being upset with a daycare who is following the emergency procedures that they put in place, which is probably one of the reasons why I chose that daycare in the first place.

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We can "like" posts now?!? Is this new or am I late in noticing this?

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It popped up a couple of days ago. And I have to say that I don't like the "share" feature at all. If I wanted my thoughts shared with a broader audience, I'd post them the Twitter & those other places myself. I know this is the internet & already out in public, but it's one thing to poke around on pg.org to see what I'm saying, it's quite another for what I've said to be spread by others among their own network of people, and on & on & on.

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"Spacers" wrote:

It popped up a couple of days ago. And I have to say that I don't like the "share" feature at all. If I wanted my thoughts shared with a broader audience, I'd post them the Twitter & those other places myself. I know this is the internet & already out in public, but it's one thing to poke around on pg.org to see what I'm saying, it's quite another for what I've said to be spread by others among their own network of people, and on & on & on.

I understand your point, but not only was what you say public, it was already share-able too. All i have to do is copy and paste the url to this page on facebook or twitter or wherever and its been shared.

I imagine there is a bit of a pyschological effect going on here, with a button set up to do it for you, one might perceive it as more acceptable to do than they would have otherwise.

But regardless, content here was always share-able, not just public.

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It is about a week old.

ETA - If you like it, it is only liked on pg.org. I also believe if you share it, is stays here on pg.org.

Ok, I lied. I am not sure if it says on here or not if you share it. It does only stay on here if you like it.

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I got a message when someone liked my post. Do we get one if someone "shares" them?

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The school I teach has a "shelter in place" plan for a number of emergencies. We have yet to need them but we practice and prepare for them on a regular basis. I have children that go to this school and I am happy that the school follows the procedure to the letter. It is designed to keep all the kids safe, parents that think an exception should be made for them are being selfish and foolish.