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    Mother shoplifting from Walmart shot dead by Texas cop as her two kids watched - Detroit liberal | Examiner.com
    In a Houston Walmart on Dec. 6 three women were observed by security to have stolen items and concealed the goods in their purses. An off-duty sheriff's deputy was in the employment of Walmart that night as a member of the loss prevention team. Upon accosting the women when they attempted to leave the building, a struggle ensued and a mother of two was shot dead.


    Deputy Louis Campell, of the Harris County Sheriff's Department with 26 years seniority, was on duty for what seemed like a typical evening. Shelly Frey, Yolanda Craig, and Tiasa Andrews, the alleged criminals, were soon to change that. It has been reported by KHOU.com that the women paid for some small items at a self-checkout while concealing the stolen goods that were in their purses.


    When confronted by Deputy Campell after they had left the building, the three females refused to stop, and one used their purse full of stolen merchandise as a weapon, wielding it like a mace, striking the deputy.


    All three women made it to their get-away car, which also contained Frey's two small children, ages unknown.
    Deputy Campell caught the women as they were attempting to drive away. He opened the driver side door, with Shelly Frey in the driver's seat. She attempted to drive away, and in the moment Deputy Campell drew his weapon and fired hitting Frey in the neck.


    The vehicle drove off, but Frey's injuries were not superficial. She crashed the vehicle several blocks away from Walmart. When paramedics arrived Frey was unconscious and unable to be revived. She was pronounced dead at the scene. Frey's accomplices were taken into custody and are currently charged with felony robbery and assaulting an officer.
    Do you think the police officer/security guard was acting in the right to shoot someone while they were trying to drive away with stolen merchandise, after a physical confrontation?
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    My thought is, obviously they shouldn't have been shoplifting, shouldn't have hit him with a purse, et cetera. However, if they were fleeing and he was chasing, he probably was not feeling like his life was in danger. I would say once they got in the car, his safest bet would have been to call in the license plates and have the on-duty cops handle it. Opening the door and shooting the woman when she tried to drive away seems more like he totally lost his temper than "his life was in danger and he had no other choice."
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    I agree with you Alissa. I didn't read that they women were armed, or that they had uttered any death threats, or that the guy felt his or the public's safety was in jeopardy. They were fleeing. Call the on-duty police and let them handle it.
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    I completely agree with you too Alissa.

    If she had been shot while she was attacking him I may feel differently...but he chased her down and then shot her.
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    Fleeing or speeding away from police they should be able to shoot them. If an officer tells you to stop... stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Fleeing or speeding away from police they should be able to shoot them. If an officer tells you to stop... stop.
    I'm curious if you'd feel the same if the children had been hit?


    I totally agree with Alissa. Of course, she did a whole lot of wrong crap. But shooting wasn't necessary. Especially with kids in the car. (they probably didn't see the kids, but how could they know for sure no one was in the car). It's not like this woman was escaping with a bomb or machine guns or was out to kill or hurt anyone.

    They obviously had the woman's plate number and could have tracked her down very easily. Instead this man killed a woman and put two kids in mortal danger. This was crazy, crazy overkill. The penalty for shoplifting OR evading the cops should never ever be a gunshot wound or death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Fleeing or speeding away from police they should be able to shoot them. If an officer tells you to stop... stop.
    Said the white woman who has no fear of police officers.

    Obviously, these women were in the wrong. But I find it sick that anyone thinks gun fire is an appropriate response to an unarmed robbery/shoplifting.
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    I agree. What they did was wrong but shooting while you are no longer in danger without knowing who was in the car is careless at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boilermaker View Post
    Said the white woman who has no fear of police officers.

    Obviously, these women were in the wrong. But I find it sick that anyone thinks gun fire is an appropriate response to an unarmed robbery/shoplifting.
    Why should someone who obeys the laws, listens to officers have any fear of a police officer?? They help save thousands of people every day, listen to any police scanner on any given day.

    They used the purse as a weapon, that is considered armed. They did hit him with it.

    What would have happened if they got in a high speed chase and someone innocent got hurt or killed? You know everyone would be all over the police's a$$. He shot her not intending to kill her, but to at least slow her down, so other's lives wouldn't be in danger. Plus, they had already hit him with the purse, that right there is intent to hurt him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire Sunsets View Post
    Why should someone who obeys the laws, listens to officers have any fear of a police officer?? They help save thousands of people every day, listen to any police scanner on any given day.

    They used the purse as a weapon, that is considered armed. They did hit him with it.

    What would have happened if they got in a high speed chase and someone innocent got hurt or killed? You know everyone would be all over the police's a$$. He shot her not intending to kill her, but to at least slow her down, so other's lives wouldn't be in danger. Plus, they had already hit him with the purse, that right there is intent to hurt him.
    In Arizona, just being brownish is considered something that the police officers can stop you for. MOST police officers are fabulous people, out to help everyone. But they are not always lily-white out to help everyone. There are tons of things we hear about police officers that should make most people fear them. Shall I find a few links for you?


    And as for being in danger because someone had intent to hurt them. With a PURSE. That is just nuts. Talk about stretching it. The next time I see a woman smack someone with her purse, I'll make sure to duck for the bullets. Since it's totally rational. :eyeroll:
    There is no way a trained veteran of the police department seriously thought he was in mortal danger because a woman smacked him with a purse. The high speed chase argument doesn't even make sense, because this wasn't even bad enough for a high speed chase. Like I said, they obviously could see her license plate. Just find her. Arrest her. And btw, add child endangerment since she took her kids to a robbery.
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