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    Quote Originally Posted by SID081108 View Post
    Hey, how do I change my settings? I hate having to scroll through all these dang pages!
    I'll PM you so as not to take up a ton of space on the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    The legal right to stop you doesn't not mean by any and all means necessary. That is vigilante justice. The police officer is not the law itself; he is the medium. The end did not justify the means in this case. Of course there will be an investigation because of the circumstances.

    Once you assault a police officer which FYI is a FELONY, and they try to run him down with a car (deadly weapon in the eyes of the law) which FYI is ANOTHER FELONY, he had the legal right to use all means necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    I'll PM you so as not to take up a ton of space on the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    This just isn't a logical train of thought. It would be like saying because I decided to smoke a small joint with my husband out on our deck one night I put my family at risk of having a DEA raid with helicopters and tear gas.

    I don't know how to find the stats, but a logical mind would be willing to see that probably 99% of petty retail theft does NOT end in high speed car chase. That sounds like what someone who watches a lot of TV thinks.
    A logical mind would realize that once you assault a police officer is BECOMES a felony not just "petty retail theft" and they have the right to use all measures to stop you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    Oh, so you have the ability to know what their intent was? How do you know they tried to run him down? Not a hair on his head was harmed or even touched. And you think it's reasonable for him to think he was in mortal danger and just fire into the car?

    I am so glad I don't live where this is called justice and justifiable. Where I'm from police are held to an extremely high level of accountability. Every time an officer simply fires his service weapon there is an investigation by a team called ASIRT. Every time an officer shoots and injures/kills a civilian they are put on paid leave until the investigation reveals that the use of their weapon was justified.
    In order:

    a) We know they tried to run him down by all the articles/reports that once he got between the car and the drivers door (or the passenger door?) that they tried to get away.

    b) Really? So assaulting him with the purse didn't touch his head when they hit him in the head? Really?

    c) Hell yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire Sunsets View Post
    A logical mind would realize that once you assault a police officer is BECOMES a felony not just "petty retail theft" and they have the right to use all measures to stop you.
    if they have this implicit right you speak of why is suspension and investigation automatic? Oh right, because they don't have the automatic right to kill people. I assumed that was obvious. So no, I really disagree with your version of what is logical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire Sunsets View Post
    A logical mind would realize that once you assault a police officer is BECOMES a felony not just "petty retail theft" and they have the right to use all measures to stop you.
    Yeah well so is forgery. You think some kid who fakes his mom's signature on a sick note deserves to get shot? Or how about someone who paints a pretty picture and passes it off as a Degas? Or how about breaking curfew? Yeah, felony - low class of felony, but still one. Let's round up all the kids who stayed out later than they were allowed and just put them in front of a firing squad. Loitering? Yep, felony. You can't throw around the word 'felony' and class everything under that umbrella as something potentially deserving of being shot by police.

    I can't believe what I'm reading here - all you who think she got what was coming to her. When it comes to guns and laws more than ever I'm so thankful to live in Canada. Just look at your gun-related crime and death rates...I guess the 'hell ya, shoot her' mentality is really is as prevalent in your country as it is on this thread. Pretty sad, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post

    I can't believe what I'm reading here - all you who think she got what was coming to her.
    Not that she got what was coming to her. Any loss of life is tragic. Just that sometimes it is unavoidable. If you back an armed Police Officer into a corner, then you are taking a risk that he or she will shoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire Sunsets View Post
    A logical mind would realize that once you assault a police officer is BECOMES a felony not just "petty retail theft" and they have the right to use all measures to stop you.
    I had no idea that committing a felony gives police officers the right to shoot at will!

    I just went and looked up a list of felonies in my state. Apparently, I can be killed by a police officer (if s/he so chooses) for:
    1. Giving false info about my residence
    2. Promoting a pyramid scheme (okay, that actually seems reasonable...pyramid schemes are pretty despicable. )
    3. Bringing an armed guard with me to work. (???)
    4. Embezzlement
    5. The unauthorized sale of hearing aids (???)
    6. A second violation of Practicing barbering or hair styling without a license.

    And so on. It's actually kind of interesting to know what is a shootable offense in my state.

    http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite...&ssbinary=true
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    [QUOTE=AlyssaEimers;9031663]Not that she got what was coming to her. Any loss of life is tragic. Just that sometimes it is unavoidable. If you back an armed Police Officer into a corner, then you are taking a risk that he or she will shoot.[/QUOTE


    they didn't back him into a corner! They ran AWAY from him!

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