Colorado Springs Police Dept.
just an example.
The Department recognizes that off-duty officers cannot rely on immediate
assistance or application of police resources in the same capacity as while on
duty, and therefore expects officers to exercise reasonable judgment before
jeopardizing themselves or others by taking police action off-duty. Officers
should, however, take action on an offense which has a significant probability
of resulting in personal injury or extensive property damage. When action is
considered necessary consistent with the tactical situation, offenses involved,
or other factors as determined by the involved officer, any police action will
be governed by the same policies, procedures and rules that apply to on-duty
personnel in a similar situationAn officer's identity as a police officer is more difficult to establish quickly
when out of uniform, and private vehicles cannot be used for pursuits or other
activities requiring special police equipment. Whenever a police officer is
carrying a service, off-duty, or auxiliary firearm off duty, the officer shall
also carry both an official police badge and official identification
card/concealed weapons permit.
Last edited by Sapphire Sunsets; 12-11-2012 at 02:01 AM. Reason: yeah, because
This is from this story.
1) He WAS in uniform.
2) He was between the door and the front of the car, and feared for his safety.
3) She was already on probation for stealing before and wasn't even supposed to be in ANY Walmart.
Walmart security guard shoots 'shoplifting' mother dead in parking - YouTube
ETA: Oh. And please. PLEASE charge her with felony robbery. Whatever. She obviously did wrong. Lots of wrong. No one is arguing she is a saint and shouldn't be arrested. I am appalled she took her children to a robbery. Disgusting. BUT that isn't the point here is it?
And even if it did, he didn't shoot her during the struggle (if there was a struggle) with the purse. He shot her as she was trying to drive away. It's the equivalent of shooting someone in the back and calling it self defense. Pretty sure that doesn't fly.
Also, on re-reading the article, I'm not sure that it's a fact that the driver, Shelley Frey, is even the one that hit him with a purse. It said that one of the three hit him, it doesn't say which one. So we could have a situation where he shot a different woman than the one that hit him. But that doesn't matter so much to me because I don't believe that he shot in self defense anyway.
-Alissa, mom to Tristan (5) and Reid (the baby!)
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I would like to see the video, but it wont let me. Honestly, it would change things for me if she was driving the car directly at him when he shot, but other than that scenario, I think he over reacted. As I am almost always on the cops side though, I choose to at least give him the benefit of the doubt and call it an over reaction, in the heat of the moment. Was it wrong, yes IMO, but everything must have happened really quickly, and he reacted.
Unless he was in uniform, or clearly identified himself as an officer, I have a hard time saying she assaulted a police officer. And anyways, hitting someone with a purse.....even a really heavy one filled with stolen merchandise, is not a shooting offense.
Mom to Arianna (5), Conner (3) and Trent (my baby)
ummm why was she shot in the neck? What was he aiming at that either he didn't aim well or he did (her head). Aren't police officers trained to not kill when they do use deadly force or am I totally wrong on that one?