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    This man was in the employment of Walmart. He acted as though a child was being abducted, not as though some cheap goods were being stolen. If you believe that this woman deserved to DIE in front of her children for shoplifting you have a much harsher sense of justice than I do. I believe that it is entirely within the realm of good security guard work protocol that this man could have followed the shoplifters outside, observed them getting in their car, called actual on duty police, given them the location and description of the vehicle, along with the license plate number, and allowed actual on duty officers to do their job. If he was being dragged by the open car door it was because he was stupid enough to put himself in that position in the first place. Shame on him.

    I don't think any child deserves to see their mother shot to death over some cheap imported goods right before Christmas. I don't ever call that justice.
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    Spacers.. do you have the link to the video you watched still?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
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    A combination of overtraining and crap luck. I had a stress fracture in my femoral neck that showed up over Memorial Day weekend and went right to crutches, 6 days later it broke and displaced, necessitating an exciting ambulance ride/emergency surgery, massive hip reconstruction/pinning. I was in the hospital for 4 days, in bed for 2 weeks, couldn't drive for 4 weeks, and on crutches for about 7 weeks post surgery. Its been a heck of a ride.

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    I haven't seen the video either and would be glad to watch it. But I also agree with Melissa that he put himself in the position to get dragged by an open door by opening the door in the first place. And why would he shoot a passenger if he was shooting because he was getting dragged by the door? If she wasn't driving, she couldn't stop the car....
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    I saw it on my morning news but I can't find a video link and the article summary doesn't have much. Here's one that has all the same info except for the shot of the "purse" in question. And I think the fact that the passenger was shot instead of the driver supports the officer's claim that he was in fear for his life, being knocked over & dragged by the car. Suspected shoplifter shot, killed by deputy working security at Walmart in north Houston | abc13.com

    And yes, if I or the people I was with smacked a police officer in the head with something, and we all ran away despite being told to stop by a uniformed police officer, and if the car in which I was riding was trying to run that police officer over & was dragging him along by a door, yes, I would absolutely expect someone to be shot. Perhaps she wouldn't have died from her injuries if she'd been taken to a hospital? With "friends" like that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    It wasn't just "a purse," it was a pretty large bag loaded with stolen goods from the video I saw, one of those straw beach bag kind of things. It could have easily weighed 15 or 20 pounds, I'm guessing, and getting smacked in the head with that could be a pretty serious injury. The driver tried to run the officer over, and he was being dragged by the open car door. If I had a gun, I'd probably try to shoot whomever was doing that to me, too, even if they hadn't been shoplifting first. It wasn't the driver who was shot, it was the passenger, so why didn't the driver take her friend to a hospital instead of driving home and parking her car? The driver should be charged with that, too! And finally, the officer *was* in uniform, so the arguments that they might not have known he was a cop are baseless. She got what she deserved.
    The vehicle drove off, but Frey's injuries were not superficial. She crashed the vehicle several blocks away from Walmart. When paramedics arrived Frey was unconscious and unable to be revived. She was pronounced dead at the scene. Frey's accomplices were taken into custody and are currently charged with felony robbery and assaulting an officer.
    Do you have another article?

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    In the video I linked above, you can clearly see the passenger door is open with yellow crime scene stuff on the floor & seat. In one of the related videos from that page, it states that "the woman in the passenger seat was bleeding from her side."
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    I read the article in the link Stacey provided and it appears it was the driver that was shot:
    "When the vehicle took off, he was standing between the door frame and the driver. I think it knocked him off balance and in fear for his life, being run over, he discharged his weapon at that point," Deputy Gilliland explained.
    The driver kept going, arriving at her apartment, where Gaines and her neighbors heard that screaming, wishing they never had.
    The passenger door was open in the video though. Maybe they attended to her from the passenger side. Trying to imagine what happened, maybe she slumped over in that direction when she died and was attended to by EMS through the passenger side because her head and injuries were closer to that side. IDK. Just a guess.
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