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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    So do you feel that way about anyone who is ever offended by anything? Like you just expect that no one will ever react to anything they hear that is offensive or hurtful, or if they do react, too bad for them?

    Just seems like a pretty extreme position to take.

    But again, you're free to use the word if you want, if you don't care that it hurts people's feelings. No one is going to take you to jail for doing so.
    No, I just don't think it's newsworthy and don't think people should all jump on the bandwagon even if it does offend you. Again, I don't use the word, but I'm definitely not going to lower myself IRL to calling names because somebody says something I don't like. It's childish as is holding on to a grudge or acting like the world should cater to your wants. It's ridiculous. You can't say people shouldn't use the word ****** because it hurts peoples feelings and then use the words dumb and jerk. It just shows EXACTLY how stupid it is to try to have everyone be politically correct instead of expecting people to learn how to handle their emotions when they are offended.

    Seriously, the letter liberals are posting all over the internet about the R word has the word dumb in it which offends another whole subset of people and they don't even notice because it's not the new cause yet. Freaking ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Yes Gloria, the r words is that much more offensive to me than the F word. The F word isn't related back to a specific group of people. Using a group of people to insult someone...that's the offensive part.
    The F word is just as offensive as the R word to a crapton of people and while I use the F bomb on a regular basis and don't think anything of it, I can let people who complain (and we have some in my office who consistently do who would use the F bomb too if they ever actually did any work) know they need to get over themselves when they do complain.

    This is just like when people make things a race issue when it wasn't to start with and then blow everything out of proportion when the original intent had nothing to do with race and the people actually involved wouldn't have thought of it except Al Sharpton told them it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wlillie View Post
    The F word is just as offensive as the R word to a crapton of people and while I use the F bomb on a regular basis and don't think anything of it, I can let people who complain (and we have some in my office who consistently do who would use the F bomb too if they ever actually did any work) know they need to get over themselves when they do complain.

    This is just like when people make things a race issue when it wasn't to start with and then blow everything out of proportion when the original intent had nothing to do with race and the people actually involved wouldn't have thought of it except Al Sharpton told them it was.
    I hate that word but work with people who routinely use it and I don't let it bother me. I think it is silly to get all upset because someone else uses a word you don't like.
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    OK, I totally get what you are saying about the word Dumb, however I see jerk as different. It is an insult yes, but only to the person it is directed to, not to a whole unintended group of people. The usage of the word jerk, at least to me, is a way of showing that her actions have caused me to lose so much respect for her, that I want to express how I feel about it, and dont care if I hurt HER feelings.

    Would I call her a jerk, to her face IRL? Maybe, except that I'm not really a confrontational person. But if the whole thing happened in real time in front of me (her using the word, being told it was hurtful to a portion of the audience, and then her using the word purposefully again) I might. In this case I dont think she would care, as I believe she was intending to be inflammatory with the second usage.

    I dont think calling someone out on their hurtful language is a bad thing though. Often it is used unintentionally, in which case a person could be pulled aside and gently talked too. If it is done in an inflammatory manner, then an equal response should be expected. It is like anything else, nothing in this world would change if nobody ever said the way things were bothered them.
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    I just think its insane to act like you think AC should be fired for doing her job and not apologizing when I bet not one single bleeding heart liberal will apologize for sharing a story that does the EXACT same thing while complaining about her.

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    I'm just done with this debate. If you can't see the difference between the r word and the f word...I just can't even go on.

    ETA: The primary definition of the word dumb is a lack of intelligence or good judgment which AC clearly displayed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    What seems so silly to me is that people that are so worried about saying the "R" word routinely use the "F" word and other cuss words that I would NEVER use. Come on that word is more offensive than those? I don't really use the word retarded either but I'm not offended if someone does.
    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Whatever floats your boat I guess. I think calling someone something that is a derogatory term about a sexual act is much worse.
    I don't agree gloria. the r word specifically targets certain people. Even if you look at the f word that way, it still doesn't target a certain group of people. Using it to insult someone is saying that the people it comes from are so awful that being identified with them is awful.


    It's one thing to disagree about how the word should be viewed, or that people should be hurt by it. It is REALLY another to keep using it even though you know it hurts people. What is the point of that? Is it just to exercise your rights?

    It might silly to be offended by someone saying potato. But if i KNEW it really hurt someone, I would stop saying it. Because it's lousy to keep hurting someone when you could choose to just say something else that wasn't hurtful. And it would be so easy. Why put up a fight and argue when it's so easy to just say something different and not hurt someone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wlillie View Post
    I just think its insane to act like you think AC should be fired for doing her job and not apologizing when I bet not one single bleeding heart liberal will apologize for sharing a story that does the EXACT same thing while complaining about her.

    I'd be VERY surprised to hear a bleeding heart use that word over and over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    ETA: The primary definition of the word dumb is a lack of intelligence or good judgment which AC clearly displayed.
    Ummm. Do you think that's where the word started? Really? See. Just say you guys were wrong. It's so easy. Ann was wrong. I was wrong to tell Susan that was the stupidest thing. Quoting so when you realize that you just won the argument for the other side completely you can't delete.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/retarded

    eta-Susan, I was talking about the guys letter to Ann telling her she isn't dumb.
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    Chiming in late.

    First of all, this is what Ann Coulter does for a living. She should be promoted...she's provoking people, she has people talking, and they're all riled up.

    Second, I do think the use of that word has changed a lot. When I was a kid it was not a bad word, it was the right word used to describe a specific condition. Then it became a nasty slang, the same way "gay" was used just to mean something was bad. So yes, I do think there's some harm to that. And yet a lot of the people who do that really don't mean it or think about it. It's not an excuse, but it's reality. People are unaware that what they're saying is demeaning and insensitive.

    I think we can go over-the-top getting hung up on words, though. It's Ann Coulter, I don't know who would expect her to say things that aren't offensive. It doesn't matter to me if she uses offensive insulting words. It would matter more if it were the head of a school board, or the President, or one of my children.
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