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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    The President isn't extending their benefits, he is just waiving the work requirement. So you don't think it should be a requirement that they at least have to attempt to find a job to continue their benefits? They don't have to have a job, just look for one.
    Looking for a job isn't an eligibility requirement and wasn't before this. Having a job wasn't an eligibility requirement before this, but your benefits ran out after 3 months if you didn't have one or if you weren't in a training program. The president isn't waiving anything; he's simply extending the benefits period which used to end at 3 months.

    "Generally ABAWDs [Able-bodied Adults Without Dependents] between 18 and 50 who do not have any dependent children can get SNAP benefits only for 3 months in a 36-month period if they do not work or participate in a workfare or employment and training program other than job search." (emphasis added)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    "Generally ABAWDs [Able-bodied Adults Without Dependents] between 18 and 50 who do not have any dependent children can get SNAP benefits only for 3 months in a 36-month period if they do not work or participate in a workfare or employment and training program other than job search." (emphasis added)

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    Yes it is a little more complicated than just looking for a job, but as long as they participate in whatever program the state requires to help them find a job as far as training and workfare they remain eligible. Obama wants to waive those requirements.

    SNAP recipients ages 16 to 59 who are not employed, or are employed fewer than 30 hours per week, are considered SNAP E&T General Population mandatory work registrants, and are required to participate in SNAP E&T. ABAWDs (i.e., SNAP recipients who are at least 18 but less than 50 years of age and are not employed or are employed less than 20 hours per week) are considered mandatory work registrants and are required to participate in SNAP E&T.
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    Just so I know, when are conservatives pro-leaving it up to the states and anti-leaving it up to the states? That's what Obama did, right? He left the work requirements up to the states....
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    I have to revise my stance a little. An able person should work, be actively (with proof) looking for a job, or be a student. There are jobs out there. There are ways to improve one's skills to get a job. It may not be in one's ideal field or it might be in a different field than used to or educated in. One might even have to move I understand if people come into hard times. But people need to buckle down and take a hard look at how they live while times are good and know that things can surely change. I realize people can come from backgrounds which create greater challenges, but I can tell you from my own experiences (from myself and from thousands of others when I worked) that people need to get out of the pity party and be tougher. People have opportunities here ----STILL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    I would love it if all able-bodied people had a job, which would pretty much make them ineligible for SNAP, but the fact is there's still about 8% of our nation out of work. Many of those people have been out of work so long their unemployment benefits have run out, which made them eligible for SNAP. They are still out of work and now their SNAP benefits are running out, so the President extended those benefits for a short period of time. Do I have a problem with that? Absolutely not.
    As an aside, I know people who have a job and still qualify for food stamps. Their job just pays too little to support their families.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myyams View Post
    I have to revise my stance a little. An able person should work, be actively (with proof) looking for a job, or be a student. There are jobs out there. There are ways to improve one's skills to get a job. It may not be in one's ideal field or it might be in a different field than used to or educated in. One might even have to move I understand if people come into hard times. But people need to buckle down and take a hard look at how they live while times are good and know that things can surely change. I realize people can come from backgrounds which create greater challenges, but I can tell you from my own experiences (from myself and from thousands of others when I worked) that people need to get out of the pity party and be tougher. People have opportunities here ----STILL.
    I think asking people to move is awful. I would lose my entire support system if I needed food stamps and required to move. Moving should be a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myyams View Post
    I have to revise my stance a little. An able person should work, be actively (with proof) looking for a job, or be a student. There are jobs out there. There are ways to improve one's skills to get a job. It may not be in one's ideal field or it might be in a different field than used to or educated in. One might even have to move I understand if people come into hard times. But people need to buckle down and take a hard look at how they live while times are good and know that things can surely change. I realize people can come from backgrounds which create greater challenges, but I can tell you from my own experiences (from myself and from thousands of others when I worked) that people need to get out of the pity party and be tougher. People have opportunities here ----STILL.
    Do you work? Your stance is pretty harsh.

    Usually people that qualify for food stamps means they cannot afford to move unless it would be an all expenses paid move by the company they have taken a job with. The job that offers that probably pays very well and then they would be off of food stamps, lol. Hell, I make too much for food stamps but I sure as sh*t wouldn't be able to afford to move.
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    I don't work. But I am also not asking for food stamps. I have worked - a whole lot!, and I have put myself through school without assistance. It was crazy hard, but when life is hard, you find a way. My stance isn't harsh. I think people should do what they need to do to take care of themselves. Jessica, sometimes hard decisions have to be made for a while until life improves. People have to do what they have to do to take care of their family. It's not ideal to move away from your family or friends. People move all of the time to go to school or to find work. I don't think it's unreasonable. So yes I think people need to work, be looking for work, or be a student - virtually anything except sitting at home collecting tax payer money doing nothing. People need to make genuine effort.

    eta: I think it's a giant slap in the face of the hardworking people out there who struggle and do the right thing with people collecting all sorts of free everythings. I am not saying everyone is doing this but there are lots who are. The hardworking people out there deserve help, not free loaders who aren't making efforts.
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    As was previously stated though, who is paying for this move? Never mind being forced to leave where you live...which is a ridiculous notion..who is paying first, last and possibly security on a new place? Actual doing the move?

    If I choose to move to have a better life, yes it can still be hard but it is MY decision. Forcing people to move for work is just beyond words to me. If there are not enough jobs to go around...then that state needs to figure out how to get more companies to come there.

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    I didn't say the State would or should require someone to leave. I am saying that people should move if they can't find a job. And it's so strange that moving is so bizarre to you. I would personally rather move than suffer financially. I'd rather take care of my kids myself than depend on welfare, tax payer money.
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