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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    So if they are at the point where they need food stamps, how do you propose they pay for this?
    It would just depend on the person's job and what they are trying to do. People who don't have at least a BA degree have a whole world wide open to them for free education. People have to be resourceful and research opportunities - and if they don't have a computer they can go to the unemployment office for lots of offerings and to the library for free computer use. I stated in the beginning my sister is getting her education paid for, getting a stipend plus gas and her food stamps. She got a job delivering pizzas to support herself and her family and goes to school. The DCF office gave her a list of opportunities that are in severe need. Some were vocational and some needed a degree. She was welcome to choose from among any of them to further her education so she could get off of foodstamps. I really can't go through every scenario possible.

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    I think part of this depends on where you live too. I live in a fairly expensive area of the country. I make a decent living on my own but if I was single I would have trouble paying rent on an apartment close to work and even where I live currently (I live 40 minutes from my office but I work at home most of the time). Why bother paying for a trade that can't even allow you to still live and still might put you on food stamps?

    My other thought is that I've worked since I was 16 and I'm 32. I've paid taxes since then. I find it completely rotten that if I all of a sudden could not support myself that where I have lived my whole life would want me to leave. It's just such a foreign concept to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    I think part of this depends on where you live too. I live in a fairly expensive area of the country. I make a decent living on my own but if I was single I would have trouble paying rent on an apartment close to work and even where I live currently (I live 40 minutes from my office but I work at home most of the time). Why bother paying for a trade that can't even allow you to still live and still might put you on food stamps?

    My other thought is that I've worked since I was 16 and I'm 32. I've paid taxes since then. I find it completely rotten that if I all of a sudden could not support myself that where I have lived my whole life would want me to leave. It's just such a foreign concept to me.
    I dont believe that anyone has said that a community would want you to leave, just that sometimes moving may be a good option if it could keep you off food stamps. In our area we have virtually no jobs left in timber mills, it used to be our biggest employer by far. If a persons best skill set was working in a mill, they may want to move to an area with some mills. If not, they would need to learn a new skill. If the cost of living is to high to support yourself in an area of the country you may want to move where the cost of living is less.
    I am someone who has no issues supporting people if they have exhausted all avenues and need help for a bit. I just dont want to help if they are on assistance because they dont want to seriously look for work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    So if they are at the point where they need food stamps, how do you propose they pay for this?

    Unemployment will pay for fulltime classes.


    On the subject of people not looking for jobs: I live in Mass where you HAVE to have health insurance or you get penalized up the *** on your taxes. People who aren't going to be able to afford insurance through there work and/or private insurance by themselves YET, make to much money or don't qualify for medicaid aren't stupid. Why work when either ALL your money is going towards health insurance or your gonna get penalized up the ***?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire Sunsets View Post
    Unemployment will pay for fulltime classes.


    On the subject of people not looking for jobs: I live in Mass where you HAVE to have health insurance or you get penalized up the *** on your taxes. People who aren't going to be able to afford insurance through there work and/or private insurance by themselves YET, make to much money or don't qualify for medicaid aren't stupid. Why work when either ALL your money is going towards health insurance or your gonna get penalized up the ***?
    If they can't afford the premium through work Masshealth will typically help pay for the premium. If they don't have work sponsored insurance and cannot qualify for Masshealth they can fill out a waiver. It's pretty simple. The penalty is 1000.00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire Sunsets View Post
    Unemployment will pay for fulltime classes.
    I just want to say that my husband was laid off and collected unemployment for a couple months last year. We were never offered an option of them paying for his schooling at all. I don't know if it was just that we didn't collect long enough for them to bother or if it isn't an option here

    I also wanted to say that my husband works full time and attends night classes part-time. I work part-time and attend classes full-time. I have an associates degree and I'm working on a bachelor's. We still don't make enough money to be denied any type of aid if we applied for it. We probably wouldn't get much in the way of food stamps, but we still fall in the eligible category. So, even families with jobs who work hard aren't always above the limit. We chose to get married young, have our family young, and do it all at once. It's hard, but we make it work. We choose to supplement our incomes with student loans when needed, but we are going to have to pay them back when we get our big boy/girl jobs.

    Having been in an unemployment situation I know that it is extremely scary and stressful. We had a daughter, an apartment, a car payment and all the sudden my husbands income was gone. We did get unemployment but it's only a portion of what he was making before. We had a lease that we couldn't break without penalty and we were also in school and I was working, so moving wasn't really an option. We had to stick it out. We were very grateful for the assistance our state was able to provide to us until my husband found his current job, which he was looking for.

    Having needed assistance, I am not okay with people just being on it and not working or going to school or looking for work. My husband had to be "looking for work." They never once asked us for proof that he was doing so. Our assistance programs have a lot of problems (loopholes) that make them easy targets for lazy people who want to take advantage, but it's also important to remember that sometimes they are a blessing to families who really only need a leg up in hard times. I think our country has placed a huge stigma on govt assistance which is very sad. It seems like a lot of people (not saying any of you) think that anyone on assistance must be on drugs, drinking, trying to float by ... etc. I think there are solutions to this like random drug testing (anyone who needs assistance and isn't taking advantage will not care about drug testing. My husband and I would happily have peed in a cup to feed our daughter), being harder on recipients about looking for work, and regulating what can be bought with food stamps (I mean things like soda, candy, etc ... I was amazed at what we could by. Pretty much anything edible that wasn't alcohol.My husbands sister had a "friend" who lived with his mother who fed him and he collected food stamps to buy soda and snacks. This is the kind of behavior that to be stopped so that the people who really need it can benefit without stigma. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    If they can't afford the premium through work Masshealth will typically help pay for the premium. If they don't have work sponsored insurance and cannot qualify for Masshealth they can fill out a waiver. It's pretty simple. The penalty is 1000.00.
    Yes, with emphasis on help. I know that. We were in that situation. We paided out over $800.00 a month and they helped by paying a little over $400.00 a month. I'm not complaining, that health insurance was amazing, but when you go from 2 fulltime incomes to 1 fulltime income where all the money is going towards health insurance it kinda sucks.


    $1000.00 is alot of money to people who are trying to budget or are counting on some sort of refund.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire Sunsets View Post
    Yes, with emphasis on help. I know that. We were in that situation. We paided out over $800.00 a month and they helped by paying a little over $400.00 a month. I'm not complaining, that health insurance was amazing, but when you go from 2 fulltime incomes to 1 fulltime income where all the money is going towards health insurance it kinda sucks.


    $1000.00 is alot of money to people who are trying to budget or are counting on some sort of refund.
    How is not having insurance or help paying insurance better than no insurance? Do you know how much a 1 week hospital stay can cost. I can assure you much more than 800.00/month.

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    A one week stay in the hospital wouldn't be so expensive if it wasn't for insurance in the first place.

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    Not true. Insurance contracts a much lower rate and if not on insurance the hospital can bill you their normal charges not their contracted rate.

    For example...I had a claim today. 5 day stay. Total charge (not including docs, anesthesia etc.) was 48, 000. We paid them 8000.00. Big difference.

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