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    Maybe it's just about setting up some requirements, the home schooled kids have to try out like everyone else and achieve the same academic standards. I'm not interested in excluding kids, I just have trouble with the idea that kids who don't go to that school would represent the school at games and such, and potentially take away the opportunity from a kid who DOES go to the school. I am not savvy about how sports programs work as I hated sports and stayed away from them once it stopped being mandatory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    Maybe it's just about setting up some requirements, the home schooled kids have to try out like everyone else and achieve the same academic standards. I'm not interested in excluding kids, I just have trouble with the idea that kids who don't go to that school would represent the school at games and such, and potentially take away the opportunity from a kid who DOES go to the school. I am not savvy about how sports programs work as I hated sports and stayed away from them once it stopped being mandatory.
    Its interesting but in doing some reading on this I found this.

    However, a closer look reveals that it would undermine our homeschooling freedoms. Fortunately, the vast majority of homeschoolers do not support homeschoolers' playing public school sports, and many are opposed.

    From here: Why the Question of Homeschoolers' Playing Public School Sports Affects All Homeschoolers - Homeschool articles - Home Education Magazine HEM
    I think that its SO weird that so many home schoolers are so terrified of having academic standards and requirements placed upon their children, its a little frightening to me.
    Its a given that they would have to try out (at least around here, PS programs are VERY competitive and there are no schools that have rules like every kid makes the team, so it is also a given that a HS kid would then be able to take a spot from a legit enrolled student.

    Also taken from that site:

    * There is a great deal of pressure, competition, and status surrounding positions on sports teams. If homeschoolers became star athletes (which is not unlikely since they have more flexible schedules which allow more time for rest and practice than students attending conventional schools), they might generate a backlash against homeschooling, with people feeling that it wasn't fair for homeschoolers to get to do the fun parts of school and receive the glory without (as they see it) having to do all the school work.
    An example of backlash comes from Arizona, where a 1999 law allows homeschoolers to play public school sports. A homeschooler in Arizona observed that the response to this law has created a "public relations nightmare" for homeschoolers. The Tucson Weekly, carried an article on November 11, 1999, titled "Home-Schooled Kids Shouldn't Be Playing High-School Athletics." Author Tom Danehy wrote, "This law, if unchanged, will mean the end of high-school sports. . . Pretty soon the kids who stay home all day (and work on their games?) are nudging out the kids who have to go to school all day and do mundane things, like show up to class and learn."
    I'm very interested and involved in athletics. I played college sports and know a lot about recruitment. No one responded to this point that I made earlier, but it is a real and legitimate threat, especially in baseball and basketball. Kids who are star recruits will then be able to leave school to "homeschool" which will really just mean focus on their sport most of the day. With little to no testing, this is doing a HUGE disservice to those kids and sets up a hugely predatory opportunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    Here is another situation to ponder. What about kids that do schooling through their school dist, but at home. Around here we have an AWESOME computer based k-12 program the kids can do provided by the school dist. It has become a very popular option with a very wide demographic, from kids that are struggling to some of the gifted kids that want to move at their own pace.
    Technically these kids are enrolled in public school, but dont go on campus for anything. Should these kids be excluded as well?
    The K-12 program is here as well (I think it is in most of the US). K-12 students are considered public schooled students not homeschoolers when it comes to rules such as sports I believe.

    Melissa - As I said in my first post, I do not know any homeschoolers who play public school sports. My main concern is the attitude that the public school does not need to offer homeschoolers anything (which is what I think will happen if this passes) which includes so much more than sports.

    As for the taxes issue, I do think paying taxes entitles you to the services of the public school whether or not your child is enrolled there.

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    But as pointed out, we pay taxes for a lot of things that we don't have access to. My parents pay taxes in town and do not have any students enrolled in school anymore. They don't get to access the middle school library just because they pay for it. As someone said (I think Melissa), I pay for prisons I don't get to roam them freely. I had a tax increase for parcel of land in town that we wanted to conserve but I don't have access to go there because there are endangered species living there.

    Unlike the pt/ot/st thing where insurance coverage is limited because they expect the schools to do so (that's how it is set up here), not joining a public school's team does not prohibit you from joining or forming your own team.
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    Homeschooling or going to private school does not mean you are forfeiting your right to be a resident of your town or city.

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    I never said it did but it does mean you forfeit the right to use private schools or public schools for what you think you deserve. I think that's awful.

    Basically, you don't think the system teaches your children better than you do for whatever reason but they certainly have a great basketball team and your kid should be a part of it?

    I don't agree with it. I wouldn't want my child to be doing extracurricular activities like clubs, sports, dances with kids she didn't know. I'm also concerned with what Melissa posted. That homeschool kids do not have to follow the same academic standards and could be practicing all the time and because of that my child who I felt would benefit from public school loses a spot on the team? No way.
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    As I stated, I do not really care about sports, however, I believe this is how it works for all child professionals. Child actors, olympic athletes and musicians are homeschooled/ have a private tutor so they can work during the day.

    That is vastly different than the thousands of ordinary homeschoolers and private school students out there.

    Perhaps a compromise could be worked out like the Olympics. You can not qualify for the olympics if you compete professionally. Perhaps you could also not be on a public school team if you were also playing professionally.

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    I wasn't talking about professional players playing on high school teams. That doesn't make sense...why would they be playing on a HS team if already playing professionally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    As I stated, I do not really care about sports, however, I believe this is how it works for all child professionals. Child actors, olympic athletes and musicians are homeschooled/ have a private tutor so they can work during the day.

    That is vastly different than the thousands of ordinary homeschoolers and private school students out there.

    Perhaps a compromise could be worked out like the Olympics. You can not qualify for the olympics if you compete professionally. Perhaps you could also not be on a public school team if you were also playing professionally.
    That's not exactly how it works for child actors. In CA, they still need a studio teacher on set to ensure the welfare of the child as well as the necessary hours of schooling. They also need to obtain a work permit which the parents can't sign of on.

    Also, playing a sport professionally does not preclude you from competing in the Olympics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    That's not exactly how it works for child actors. In CA, they still need a studio teacher on set to ensure the welfare of the child as well as the necessary hours of schooling. They also need to obtain a work permit which the parents can't sign of on.

    Also, playing a sport professionally does not preclude you from competing in the Olympics.
    I am not sure on exact details, but I do know you are talking about the tiniest fraction of homeschoolers. It should not be the basis of whether or not to let all homeschoolers participate in local school activities.

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