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    Worrying that the local public school is turning your kids gay is so 2008. The fear du jour? It’s turning your kids Mexican.



    In a video recorded by a sophomore using a “spy pen,” a Spanish teacher in McAllen, Tex. calls on students in her class to sing the Mexican national anthem and recite its pledge of allegiance—in Spanish, of course. Cue parental outrage:



    “I just find it appalling, the indoctrination of this stuff is going on all the time down here,” said William Brinsdon, the father of the girl who recorded the lesson, on Glenn Beck’s radio show.



    The girl herself, 15-year-old Brenda Brinsdon, agreed. “I feel that this was an indoctrination,” she said in a follow-up article on Beck’s website, The Blaze. “Even with the slightest bit of influence to any children, I mean, it’s always huge. It’s always a major impact on kids, especially youth… .”



    Other conservative websites, including Hot Air and TeaParty.org, have piled on, while school officials have scrambled to defend themselves.



    The New York Times blog The Lede notes that those criticizing the pledge seem to be subscribing to theories of “performative language,” in which speaking something is akin to doing it. By that theory, the students committed themselves to a life of loyalty to Mexico by uttering the pledge. By most other theories, of course, the students are still American.

    Obviously, the article is biased, but I liked it because it had links where you can go read both sides (Glenn Beck, Hot Air, and the Tea Party on one side, and then the school officials on the other side.)

    So what do you think? Is singing the Mexican national anthem and reciting its pledge of allegiance in Spanish class "indoctrination"? Would you be bothered if your child did this in their Spanish class?
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    Sounds like it was knowledge, should learn it in Spanish class. I think it was very appropriate. When we study different countries in homeschool we learn about their religion and politics, and some words in their language. in a HIGHSCHOOL? Spanish class they should know the Spain/Mexican/.. other central and south american national anthems and pledge of allegiances.. sure. Not only do I think it is ok and appropriate for Spanish class, I think it is great...
    OPPS guess there are a few things I disagree with the Tea Party.

    I think their main issue is kids are not learning our own anthem and pledge. Who is taught the WHOLE anthem anymore. I never was.. it had 4 stanzas originally and a 5th was added... who knew! I think ALL students should know it. Mine are learning it now.
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    The thing I find offensiveis that they are learning the Mexican National Anthem. Hello, there are other Spanish speaking countries. Actually in schools you learn Spanish usually of a Spain dialect not Mexican. They shuld learn the Spanish National Anthem....as in Spain. Thatwould make more sense. even thought he Mexican National Athem is really nice.

    As for being indoctrinated, what a load of garbage.

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    The part that tickled my funny bone is that a couple of the articles mentioned that it would be okay to read the Mexican pledge - it was just the speaking it out loud part that bothered them.

    Sounds like a bunch of superstitious hoodoo to me. Are we talking about Mexico or Voldemort?
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    Quote Originally Posted by culturedmom View Post
    The thing I find offensiveis that they are learning the Mexican National Anthem. Hello, there are other Spanish speaking countries. Actually in schools you learn Spanish usually of a Spain dialect not Mexican. They shuld learn the Spanish National Anthem....as in Spain. Thatwould make more sense. even thought he Mexican National Athem is really nice.

    As for being indoctrinated, what a load of garbage.
    Well, Mexico is the CLOSEST country that speaks spanish.
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    I wouldn't care, but I don't understand the Mexican thing either. Even if it is the closest country to speak it, they definitely aren't the ones I'd want my kid learning about right now. I'd much rather Spain or some other country where he wouldn't already know most of the information from his classmates.

    I'd be really upset if it was a daily thing, but a one time assignment just seems completely silly to get butthurt about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Well, Mexico is the CLOSEST country that speaks spanish.
    But that is not the Spanish they are learning. What does proximaty have to do with anything? In school they teach vosotros instead of usteded and melocoton instead of durazno. Maybe they mix in some Latin american words but i I remember correctly is is mainly Spanish derived from Spain. I'm just saying that would make more sense then to teach the Spanish Anthem then the Mexican. Honestly I don't care. I think they shoud learn a little about every country including the anthem and any other pertinant info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wlillie View Post
    I wouldn't care, but I don't understand the Mexican thing either. Even if it is the closest country to speak it, they definitely aren't the ones I'd want my kid learning about right now. I'd much rather Spain or some other country where he wouldn't already know most of the information from his classmates.

    I'd be really upset if it was a daily thing, but a one time assignment just seems completely silly to get butthurt about.
    What do you mean by the bolded? What's wrong with learning about Mexico?

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    I don't think it's that big of a deal. I mean, here in Canada we had plenty of lessons on the US. I know your anthem by heart and could sing it in my sleep. I know plenty of your history and enough of your politics. I think it's important to be aware of the country(ies) that you are neighbours to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JorgieGirl View Post
    I don't think it's that big of a deal. I mean, here in Canada we had plenty of lessons on the US. I know your anthem by heart and could sing it in my sleep. I know plenty of your history and enough of your politics. I think it's important to be aware of the country(ies) that you are neighbours to.
    I agree. It is more relevant to learn about your neighbours than countries overseas.
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