So Rivergallery, where do you draw the line, or do you? If I hate black people, should I be able to talk about and encourage people to kill black people? Christians? Atheists? Women? Anybody at all?
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So Rivergallery, where do you draw the line, or do you? If I hate black people, should I be able to talk about and encourage people to kill black people? Christians? Atheists? Women? Anybody at all?
I'm not going to get into a death penalty debate but I will definitely disagree with you about war. War should be between countries, not people. My uncle was on the front lines in WWII and he said it was never about killing the Japanese, he never had any hatred of them, he was just doing what his country asked him to do, which was kick their *** for what they did in Pearl Harbor. Being at war is not even close to the same thing as one person inciting violence against another.
That is the trick, if we don't want the government controlling who we view as the enemy, then we shouldn't have laws against talk. I do agree with libel and slander laws, making someone prove something is true or not. But stating you hate XYZ shouldn't be regulated IMO. The violence itself should be harshly punished, not the talkQuote:
Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal
I disagree.. so the government can not only incite violence on a group of people but cause the violence to happen, but individuals can't?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spacers
ETA- gotta take a break, making too many spelling typing error.. damn daily migraine!
Not really part of the debate, but I did want to point out the irony of a law here. It is a felony to threaten to hit someone, but a misdemeanor to actually hit them.
No one is saying that you can't hate someone, or that you can't say you hate them. What you shouldn't be able to say is that they should be hurt or killed because of the way you feel about them. It has nothing to do with your government conspiracy theory. It should be the same whether whatshisname is saying gays should be killed because that's what the bible says, or whether I say religious fanatics should get some common sense beaten into them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rivergallery
So to make sure I understand you, the answer is that we should be allowed to encourage each other to hurt anyone we want. It's only punishable if you actually act. Is that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rivergallery
The article is so biased, too. His trip "coincided" with the legislation-- as if it were an accident that he traveled to Uganda during the time they were considering this law.
This man is a hateful jerk. No Christian that I know or respect believes that it is their job to pass judgement on others or their lifestyle. The Christians I respect leave that to individuals and their God. This guy is up there with that creepy baptist church that protests funerals.
The idea that it is okay to incite violence against anyone based upon their lifestyle or choices is sick. I find it seriously warped.
WWJD? Really.
WWJD?.... Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by boilermaker
Matt 21:12 - he not only incited violence both as a man and GOD in the OT, and new.. might want to Read REVELATION ALSO.. But here he WAS violent. Violence is not always evil ;).
Okay, since I'm not a Bible reader..please advise me on where he spoke of hurting and killing others because everything I ever learned in rel. ed pointed to the fact that he never called others to violence or spoke to others about hurting others.