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    yeah, that's not what the law says in Louisiana. Unless he touched the other guys genitalia or anus then it really doesn't fit the bill. I couldn't find anythign to see if NO had a separate and more broad definition.

    eta-I live an hour and a half away from NO and can honestly say this guy had absolutely no fair chance of an unbiased jury (and judge according to the article) within 300 miles of Baton Rouge.
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    This is first site I pulled up and it says that it is:

    What is the definition of sexual battery in Louisiana

    (2) The touching of the anus or genitals of the offender by the victim using any instrumentality or any part of the body of the victim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    This is first site I pulled up and it says that it is:

    What is the definition of sexual battery in Louisiana

    (2) The touching of the anus or genitals of the offender by the victim using any instrumentality or any part of the body of the victim
    but if you keep reading, it puts limitations. This guy was between the ages listed and has no disability (either mental or physical).

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    Ok, I am so confused. Do you really think what this guy did should not be against the law? If I found out someone had rubbed them self on me while I was pasted out I would feel so violated.

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    Lillie~you are right and I"m sorry. I typing at work (what else is new? LOL) and the page scrolled and I missed that part. My bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Ok, I am so confused. Do you really think what this guy did should not be against the law? If I found out someone had rubbed them self on me while I was pasted out I would feel so violated.
    This. Lillie, are you saying that you don't think that rubbing your genitals against someone without their consent should be against the law, or are you saying that 2 years is too stiff a sentence for rubbing your genitals on someone without their consent?

    I agree that being passed out drunk is bad behavior and can unfortunately make you more vulnerable to attack. But at the end of the day, I still put full blame on the attacker, not the attacked. I mean really, what does the fact that she was passed out matter to what he did? What if he had walked up and rubbed his genitals on her when she was stone sober? It's the same action on his part, no matter what her state is. And drunk or not, no one has the right to violate you. I just don't even know how her being drunk even plays into it, to be honest.

    Also, if having too much to drink one night makes you too stupid to live, I'm sorry to say that I should be dead several times over in my life by now. I think that's a mistake that many of us have made at least once, I'm afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wlillie View Post
    but if you keep reading, it puts limitations. This guy was between the ages listed and has no disability (either mental or physical).
    I think one could make the argument that having a disability means that the person would be more vulnerable, which makes an act even more reprehensible than an act done with a person who doesn't have a disability. Still reprehensible though. When a person is unconscious, that person is also totally vulnerable - making an act more reprehensible.

    Besides this even..it's just way out of line and people have the right to not be violated no matter what mental state or capacity they are in and no matter the situation. It's horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    This. Lillie, are you saying that you don't think that rubbing your genitals against someone without their consent should be against the law, or are you saying that 2 years is too stiff a sentence for rubbing your genitals on someone without their consent?

    I agree that being passed out drunk is bad behavior and can unfortunately make you more vulnerable to attack. But at the end of the day, I still put full blame on the attacker, not the attacked. I mean really, what does the fact that she was passed out matter to what he did? What if he had walked up and rubbed his genitals on her when she was stone sober? It's the same action on his part, no matter what her state is. And drunk or not, no one has the right to violate you. I just don't even know how her being drunk even plays into it, to be honest.

    Also, if having too much to drink one night makes you too stupid to live, I'm sorry to say that I should be dead several times over in my life by now. I think that's a mistake that many of us have made at least once, I'm afraid.
    I totally think it should be illegal. He exposed himself in public and no one was paying. It was guy on guy which to me is more frat boy/sports fanatic behavior. There was absolutely no sexual intent or content included. Just like breastfeeding in public is acceptable but just flashing people isn't. One is meant to be sexual, the other is just feeding your kid. People can try to insinuate or interpret the action as sexual, but it isn't.This guy was most definitely trying to humiliate the LSU guy, but he didn't sexually assault him. If the Alabama fan had drawn all over LSU guy with a black marker, the video would have been just as viral. Because to immature people (the kind who get so drunk they don't remember what they did until someone shows them on youtube) this stuff is funny.

    I think there are some pretty unintelligent people on mommy boards, but I can't think of one that would get drunk enough to pass out in public on Bourbon street.

    eta- Especially during that particular game time. I forgot about it and wore an LSU shirt in an Alabama Panera Bread and despite being visibly pregnant, visibly grumpy, and visibly with an Alabama fan, they heckled me and even jokingly threatened to not serve me until I reminded them I was pregnant and didn't have a whole lot of clothes that fit.

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    I thought the victim was a woman? I can't see the video from work.

    Anyway, it doesn't really matter to me if it was meant to be sexual or not. It's still some dude rubbing his genitals on someone who didn't consent. If that happened to me, I wouldn't much care if the intent was to be funny or to be sexy. Either way, unwanted genitals on my person!

    I can't speak specifically to Bourbon St or LSU games since I've never been. All I'm saying is, I have been stupid drunk a couple of times in my life, as have many people I know. Which isn't something I'm proud of, but also not something that I think means you are too stupid to live.

    And regardless of how drunk you are, I still don't think that makes it okay for someone to victimize you in any way (be it sexual, or just stealing your purse.)
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    But if it had been his stinky feet that he'd rubbed on the guy, we wouldn't be having this debate. My point is that the genitalia wasn't bineg used in a sexual way, so he shouldn't be charged with sexual assault. Not that he didn't do anything wrong, but being labeled a sex offender and two years is far too harsh for a stupid and over the top prank.

    If we can't distinguish between male genitals being used for a sexual reason, then we can't honestly say that women should breastfeed in public.

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