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    Default States are losing billions by not expanding Medicaid

    States losing billions in refusing to expand Medicaid, report finds - NBC News.com

    Red states may be sticking to their Republican beliefs in small government, but a new study finds they are passing up billions in federal funding by saying no to the Medicaid expansion. Texas will lose $9.2 billion in 2022; Florida says goodbye to $5 billion; Georgia is out $4.9 billion; Alabama loses out on $2.1 billion; and North Carolina is giving up on a potential $5.7 billion. Indiana, which is still undecided on whether to join the Medicaid expansion, would bring in nearly $2.6 billion in Medicaid money in 2022 if it did.

    These figures include offsets for the states' portion of Medicaid costs. The study also included potential savings from fewer uninsured people using emergency rooms they can't pay for.

    What do you think about this? Should these states be required to join in? I know the Supreme Court already said no to that question, but that was before a study of this nature and this magnitude had been done. Why, in the UNITED States of America should where you live determine whether you can get medical care? Especially when your state is giving up the chance for billions of dollars to help cover your medical care?
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    No states should not be forced to join into the Medicaid expansion. We may be the united states, but our constitutions was written in a way that gives states the power to do what is right for their citizens. If states do not like the choices that are being made by those in power then they can vote them out.

    I actually have a lot of respect for states that are willing to turn down federal funding.
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    Absolutely not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    No states should not be forced to join into the Medicaid expansion. We may be the united states, but our constitutions was written in a way that gives states the power to do what is right for their citizens. If states do not like the choices that are being made by those in power then they can vote them out.

    I actually have a lot of respect for states that are willing to turn down federal funding.
    I just can't figure out how turning down billions and denying access to medical care is "doing right" for their citizens.

    This just seems like a strange hill to die on.

    Raise drinking age or lose federal funds. Check. Adopt NCLB standards or lose federal funds. Check. Accept federal funds to expand MediCaid? Oh hell no!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Absolutely not.


    Amendment X

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

    Then maybe it should be put to a vote in the states declining the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Then maybe it should be put to a vote in the states declining the money.
    If you were to put it to a citizen vote if Obamacare should be repealed or if TN should embrace it with open arms I would guess at least 75% if not more would say repeal it. Our local news posted a story on FB today (they have a question of the day) asking if anyone had tried the healthcare.gov website since it had been revamped. There were TONS of comments about how they want nothing to do with it and are staying far, far away from it. To say that Obamacare is unpopular here would be a vast understatement. Yes, you will have some people that are for it, just like I am sure there are conservatives where many of you live, but they are far and away in the minority.

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    For reference, Look at this article. Tennessee: Obamacare will triple men's premiums, double women's | WashingtonExaminer.com Weather or not you think it is true, it is what many of the people of TN believe and contributes to why it is so unpopular in this area.

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    Wait what? We're back to Obamacare?

    The federal government isn't forcing states to take money. Since it is a state decision, it should be up to the people to decide if the state takes or loses the money right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    If you were to put it to a citizen vote if Obamacare should be repealed or if TN should embrace it with open arms I would guess at least 75% if not more would say repeal it. Our local news posted a story on FB today (they have a question of the day) asking if anyone had tried the healthcare.gov website since it had been revamped. There were TONS of comments about how they want nothing to do with it and are staying far, far away from it. To say that Obamacare is unpopular here would be a vast understatement. Yes, you will have some people that are for it, just like I am sure there are conservatives where many of you live, but they are far and away in the minority.
    To be clear: 75% of the citizens of TN have chosen to remove their children from the coverage long before they turn 26? Those with pre-existing conditions have told doctors/medical professionals that they will pay out of pocket for anything related to that condition? Those who seek mental health treatment also decline to allow their insurance company to cover the bill and pay out of pocket instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    For reference, Look at this article. Tennessee: Obamacare will triple men's premiums, double women's | WashingtonExaminer.com Weather or not you think it is true, it is what many of the people of TN believe and contributes to why it is so unpopular in this area.
    — Today, a 27-year-old man in Memphis can buy a plan for as low as $41 a month. On the exchange, the lowest state average is $119 a month — a 190 percent increase.

    — Today, a 27-year-old woman in Nashville can also buy a plan for as low as $58 a month. On the exchange, the lowest-priced plan in Nashville is $114 a month — a 97 percent increase. Even with a tax subsidy, that plan is $104 a month, almost twice what she could pay today.
    What is the coverage?

    It's just so misleading with all the "could buy a plan for $58/month" but now the lowest-priced plan is $114/month. Notice, it doesn't say the plans are the same or even similar.

    I tried to follow the links to TN's exchange and get information, but they've got nothing.

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