I agree with Melissa and Lisa and so on and so forth. While i don't think its very feasible and I think lawsuits are over utilized in the US, i can't see how it makes sense for a parent to be able to sue or receive compensation for being harmed by a vaccine...and given the privelage to not have to face that scenario, yet can get off scott free for causing the death of someone else because of their choice to not vaccinate. That just seems totally self centered and reeks of "My child is more important than your child".
About differentiating between the MMR and chicken pox. I don't know how well that really works. Some quick research says that pretty much every child used to contract Measels in the US and about 500 or so died a year. Where chicken pox, 150 or so died a year prior to the vaccine. If every child pretty much contracted it..i don't see how you can make a case for one and not the other. While it sounds like a big difference, i don't really think its that big in the giant scheme of things.
You know, i've always had anxiety about giving my kids vaccines. I don't think anyone LOVES the thought of something going potentially wrong...but you just do it...well at least I think you should.
As for school. NY most definitely has regulations about being vaccinated and only has religious exemptions and the form is very specific about this.
I'd also like to say, unfortunately that the mandate is no promise that your child will be going to school with mostly vaccinated kids. Admittedly i forgot to hand in Aodhan's records last year...while he was fully vaccinated, they never made him stay home. When the vax papers never made it to school, they contacted me once, and then when they still didn't get them, they sent me a religious/philosophical exemption form, which i never filled out, because he is fully vaccinated. I never heard anything else about it after that.
I know, very bad of me and i could have gotten the school in trouble. I'm usually good about these things. But i can't claim perfection and this was a screw up. Anyway...i suspect the way my kids school handled it is not that uncommon unfortunately.
Cecilia Marie 1/10/10
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I don't think they know what to do with adults and that is why there is no clear schedule. I have been vaccinated for hepatitis and German Measles. I have to get titers for hepatitis for work and German Measles for each pregnancy. I always show up as having no antibodies (which is why I get the German measles vaccine after each pregnancy, that's 3 times in 4 years). The doctors can't tell me if I am immune and it is in my memory cells and not circulating or if I'm not longer able to produce antibodies. I'll do my best not to put myself in the situation where I find out!
I'm a strong believer in vaccines. Most of the people I know from my grandparents generation (or looking back further since there are several family member who do genealogy), it was not uncommon to have a child die or have a side effect that lasts a lifetime from some infectious disease. I believe most anti-vax people do not understand real risk. I also feel that there is a heard mentality with some anti-vac people and that bothers me. I've been in moms groups where there is one strong anti-vax person and a bunch who go along with that mainly because they don't want to hurt their baby by giving them shots.
I don't feel suing them is the answer. I'm not sure what to do other than more education.
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Yeah i have to admit that I find it hard in reality to say that suing them is a good answer. For the sake of my feelings in this debate and the way people sue left and right in this country, it makes me feel like "sure, why the hell not"I don't feel suing them is the answer. I'm not sure what to do other than more education.
But in reality...i don't think its the best solution.
I do think however, ethically speaking, they would be responsible for that child's death and would be in the wrong.
THat comparison doesn't really work with vaccinating. If you are suing someone for passing the disease on, i think thats the same as saying that choosing not to vaccinate is not safe...period, and harmful to others. That there is no 'safe way' to not vaccinate. Owning a car and driving it responsibly is not an unsafe decision. Choosing not to vaccinate, in and of itself is an unsafe decision....unless we go with the remote island idea.
I do actually see a hangup with allowing people to leaglly choose to not vaccinate but then suing them for the choice.