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    To be alive and according to Dr's not going to be alive into adulthood. I'm glad though that her short life with multiple surgeries makes YOU happy, though. I'm sure it is breaking her biological parents hearts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    To be alive and according to Dr's not going to be alive into adulthood. I'm glad though that her short life with multiple surgeries makes YOU happy, though. I'm sure it is breaking her biological parents hearts.
    It does make me happy. And it isn't like I haven't seen a similar situation up close. I had a nephew that was born with birth defects and lived to age 11 and never had mental capacity higher than about a 3 month old. He had multiple surgeries and siezures and other medical problems. His parents and his sisters loved every day they spent with him and wouldn't trade those days for the world.
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    That is nice that they got to be with their child and no one stole them. Your experience does not determine what other people should want, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    That is nice that they got to be with their child and no one stole them. Your experience does not determine what other people should want, however.
    I think that child's right to live overrides what other people want. We are not talking about letting a child die we are talking about killing it. I can't really sympathize with any hurt feelings her parents might have because she is alive.
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    We are also talking about a woman stealing a couples biological child. They had petitioned to have the child and have it turned over to the state for care once she refused the abortion. She went AGAINST their wishes and gave the child to another family out of state. You support that practice? Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I had a nephew that was born with birth defects and lived to age 11 and never had mental capacity higher than about a 3 month old. He had multiple surgeries and siezures and other medical problems.
    For me, that would absolutely be a living nightmare, and I would do anything I legally could to allow my child a quick, peaceful death. I would never want to subject my child to that kind of existence. That isn't "life." Life needs to be worth living, it shouldn't be a painful existence with no emotional growth until the day you finally die. No thank you. You & your family are free to make that decision for yourselves, but you have no right to make it for me or my child. And this woman had no right to make it for another family and THIER CHILD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    We are also talking about a woman stealing a couples biological child. They had petitioned to have the child and have it turned over to the state for care once she refused the abortion. She went AGAINST their wishes and gave the child to another family out of state. You support that practice? Why?
    I have seen how hard it is to get a child out of state care. This child went straight into a loving family that wanted her instead of going through six months to a year of red tape through the state before being adopted. The family didn't want a special needs child and wanted her dead. Once they made that decision I don't blame her for doing what was best for the child. I don't think it is EVER best for a child to be turned over to be a ward of the state unless they are in some kind of abusive situation. The parents could have tried to arrange an adoption instead of turning her over to the state but they didn't want to be involved.

    My sister adopted her own grandchild and she still ended up in foster care for 10 months even though they started the adoption process within a week of her birth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I have seen how hard it is to get a child out of state care. This child went straight into a loving family that wanted her instead of going through six months to a year of red tape through the state before being adopted. The family didn't want a special needs child and wanted her dead. Once they made that decision I don't blame her for doing what was best for the child. I don't think it is EVER best for a child to be turned over to be a ward of the state unless they are in some kind of abusive situation. The parents could have tried to arrange an adoption instead of turning her over to the state but they didn't want to be involved.

    My sister adopted her own grandchild and she still ended up in foster care for 10 months even though they started the adoption process within a week of her birth.
    THE PARENTS HAD THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE DECISION ABOUT THEIR OWN CHILD. PERIOD. They could not force an abortion or force this skank (who would have aborted for 15K, lest you forget) but they SHOULD have been able to decide whose care their child then went into. This lowlife stole their child like a thief in the night away to another state. That is kidnapping, IMO. Not.Right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    For me, that would absolutely be a living nightmare, and I would do anything I legally could to allow my child a quick, peaceful death. I would never want to subject my child to that kind of existence. That isn't "life." Life needs to be worth living, it shouldn't be a painful existence with no emotional growth until the day you finally die. No thank you. You & your family are free to make that decision for yourselves, but you have no right to make it for me or my child. And this woman had no right to make it for another family and THIER CHILD.
    There are lots of people with special needs children that would disagree with you. When that child smiles at you and laughs who are you to say if their life is worth living or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    There are lots of people with special needs children that would disagree with you. When that child smiles at you and laughs who are you to say if their life is worth living or not.

    I do agree with you here. Spacers is not any more equipped to make this decision than........YOU are. That is ONLY the decision of the parent to make. Unfortunately Gloria, you are not the parent in this case.
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