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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I don't see a problem with it. If you don't want a background check don't apply for that job. I have had background checks before and just had to go through another one because the company I work for sold software to Miami-Dade Corrections and they require background checks even though I don't work directly for them just because I might have contact with their employee data.
    I have a problem with this kind of attitude. Not just about fingerprint checks, but all sorts of 'new' requirements for jobs (ie, nurses and flu shots). In terms of up and coming students, yes I agree. Dont go into this job if you dont want your fingerprints on file. However, there are people out there who just dont want their fingerprints on file for whatever reason. If these are teachers who have been teaching for 20 years with no incident, is it fair of us to tell them, fingerprints or no job? I dont think so. It was not a requirement when they were hired, and I dont feel that fingerprinting them is doing much to protect our children.

    For the record, I do feel that routine background checks are non invasive enough, and do help protect our children, so I dont have a problem with them being required by everyone, just the fingerprinting part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire Sunsets View Post
    It keeps known abusers/molesters from going from state to state (or even district to district) and being able to do it again and again. I was doing research on it last night and it's amazing that some states don't even require a background check for teachers.
    Maybe it is just that the system here is different. When I got a background check I had to give them the addresses of every place I have ever lived, with duration (no gaps) then they check across Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post

    For the record, I do feel that routine background checks are non invasive enough, and do help protect our children, so I dont have a problem with them being required by everyone, just the fingerprinting part.
    Can I ask what the difference is? I really have never thought twice about being finger printed. DH works a part time job. He need to use his thumb print just to get into the building. I am not sure I see what the problem is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Can I ask what the difference is? I really have never thought twice about being finger printed. DH works a part time job. He need to use his thumb print just to get into the building. I am not sure I see what the problem is?
    I actually dont have a problem with it myself, but I do know people who want to keep themselves 'out of the system' as much as possible. As much as I think it is slightly irrational myself, there are those out there who worry who will have access to this kind of information, and what can be done with it. Probably applies more to DNA, but a fingerprint in the wrong place can hang you.
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    [QUOTE=ftmom;9040166]Yes, so they are not actually confirming that it is you, just that it is not a criminal who has their fingerprints in that particular data base.[/QUOTE

    I definitely don't understand what you are talking about. When I was background checked and fingerprinted before I could work for a bank it was done at our local police station. I had to produce valid photo id. Are you inferring I could have somehow faked my fingerprint had I bee a convicted embezellor (or child molester as it relates to the debate?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    Yes, so they are not actually confirming that it is you, just that it is not a criminal who has their fingerprints in that particular data base.[/QUOTE

    I definitely don't understand what you are talking about. When I was background checked and fingerprinted before I could work for a bank it was done at our local police station. I had to produce valid photo id. Are you inferring I could have somehow faked my fingerprint had I bee a convicted embezellor (or child molester as it relates to the debate?)
    No, but someone with fake ID could have their fingerprints put on file as yours, if you are not already in the system. I just dont think that fingerprinting someone who is not in the system already does much more than put them in the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    Yes, so they are not actually confirming that it is you, just that it is not a criminal who has their fingerprints in that particular data base.
    The bold is kind of the point. That is what its supposed to help...help schools not hire people that put the kids at risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    I actually dont have a problem with it myself, but I do know people who want to keep themselves 'out of the system' as much as possible. As much as I think it is slightly irrational myself, there are those out there who worry who will have access to this kind of information, and what can be done with it. Probably applies more to DNA, but a fingerprint in the wrong place can hang you.
    I have heard of people wanting to live completely off the grid, but you would need to not have a job and only use cash. Having a job (Any kind of job) is going to make there be a record of you. Even my girls foot prints were taken by the hospital at birth. I do not think it is realistic for someone to think it would be possible to live their entire life without record of himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post

    No, but someone with fake ID could have their fingerprints put on file as yours, if you are not already in the system. I just dont think that fingerprinting someone who is not in the system already does much more than put them in the system.
    This is why I would think you would want your finger prints in the system.

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    [QUOTE=ftmom;9040180]
    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post

    No, but someone with fake ID could have their fingerprints put on file as yours, if you are not already in the system. I just dont think that fingerprinting someone who is not in the system already does much more than put them in the system.
    Longshot. Assuming inside job in the system or something?!?! I doubt it.
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