Teen kicked out of camp for kissing

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Teen kicked out of camp for kissing

Teen Kicked Out of Camp for Kissing Behind Arts and Crafts Cabin, Lawsuit Claims - ABC News

What do you think, should the camp be allowed to kick someone out for kissing? The teen over reacting?

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I feel like there is more to the story. I don't think she should have been kicked out for kissing. Depending on how much further than kissing it was, then they could be allowed to do that. I'm also interested in what happened to the boy.

Under no circumstances should the people in charge call the girl **** or other similar names. I don't care if she was dancing naked on the picnic tables.

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It sounds like she broke the rules. The camp listed the rules on the website, it sounds like it was a little vague.

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I agree with PP that it is never appropriate to call a child names, however I do think the camp was well within bounds to kick someone out for kissing. Both camps I have been to kissing was against the rules. I think if it was clearly stated before hand that kissing was against the rules, that there would be no grounds for a lawsuit for being kicked out.

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The family spent $6,450 for the four-week camp

I guess I feel for something that cost that much for that long, I would expect a warning about the kissing before being escorted off the camp grounds by a uniformed police officer. If it was more than that then again, that is another story.

If the guidelines specifically say kissing will get you expelled though, it is their right to do so. When I tried to look up more, it said they had withdrawn their lawsuit so either they settled with the camp or the rules were very clear or there is more to the story that isn't good for them.

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The camp that I went to growing up (That was way cheaper than that), spelled out on the application form what you could be kicked out for. You also had to sign the form saying that they would not return your money if you were kicked out or left for some reason.

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Uh---is no one wondering why the boy didn't get kicked out and called names?

to you "rules" fans- what rule? The handbook has no rule against kissing. And is no one upset that the LEADERS/ counsellers were the ones encouraging this behavior? And a camp has "courting time" but then freaks out when the logical conclusion of courting happens? Freaky.

Then again- the parents also sound like real gems the way they portray the child and the "romance" and paint her as a wounded little bird of divorce. Gross all around.

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Nothing about this story makes any sense to me...there must be a lot more going on.

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Definitely not the whole story here.

There are accusations of clothing removal and whatnot, that are never further commented on.

And I think knowing the reason behind withdrawing the lawsuit could possibly be very enlightening, however we will never know.

A lot of he said, she said stuff going on here. Who really knows what happened.

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"Potter75" wrote:

Uh---is no one wondering why the boy didn't get kicked out and called names?

to you "rules" fans- what rule? The handbook has no rule against kissing. And is no one upset that the LEADERS/ counsellers were the ones encouraging this behavior? And a camp has "courting time" but then freaks out when the logical conclusion of courting happens? Freaky.

Then again- the parents also sound like real gems the way they portray the child and the "romance" and paint her as a wounded little bird of divorce. Gross all around.

Well, we dont know that the boy didnt get kicked out and called names. He was not part of the lawsuit so is only mentioned in relation to the initial courting and 'kiss'. It is possible the family doesnt even know what happened to him afterward.

The handbook does prohibit "sexually provocative" behavior and "sexual relations or physical contact with another person (opposite or same sex)." , which I suppose could include kissing, especially if it was 'full contact' kissing Smile

Anyone else suspect it really was more than a kiss, and the parents withdrew the lawsuit after the daughter confessed as much?

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"ftmom" wrote:

Anyone else suspect it really was more than a kiss, and the parents withdrew the lawsuit after the daughter confessed as much?

I admittedly wondered that. I'm not entirely sure what would cause the director to spontaneously throw out accusations of clothing removal just for the fun of it.

I will just leave it merely as speculation, since there is no way for us to know but I don't think anyone could deny that this is a plausible situation.

And just to be clear, i don't approve of the name calling....i don't think that is an appropriate way to handle any situation like this...thats just downright terrible.

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"Potter75" wrote:

And is no one upset that the LEADERS/ counsellers were the ones encouraging this behavior? And a camp has "courting time" but then freaks out when the logical conclusion of courting happens? Freaky.

This was my reaction. 1. WTH is the camp having "court time?" What kind of camp is this??? but 2. If they are going to have court time, and then actively encourage the kids to kiss, how can they turn around and kick anyone out over kissing? If kissing is against the rules, then the camp counselors that were encouraging it ("kindly and nurturingly") should be fired, rather than the kids getting thrown out.

That's assuming that kissing was all that happened, of course.

Regardless, no one should have called the girl names. That's totally inappropriate.

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There has to be more to it. SO said the article he read said the boy also got kicked out but I don't know for sure.

Am I the only one who sees scenes from the movie Little Darlings in my head?

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Their handbook online lists sexual relations or physical contact could result in them being removed. Their rules are very vague though in when they employ the 3 strikes and when they remove immediately.

I also think there was else going on.

Definitely "Little Darlings" has been going through my head.

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The camp must have updated their website because I don't see a handbook or rules on there tonight. But regardless, I'm with Melis in wondering why the leaders or counselors would be having "court time" and encouraging the kids to kiss if it is against the rules. And why would the "three strikes" rule would not apply here? It doesn't add up to me.

The article from the Connecticut Post says that the parents have withdrawn their lawsuit, "As a result of unilateral action of party or parties without costs to any party." Sounds to me like they got their camp tuition back upon agreement to drop the suit.

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Just for reference:
http://www.campemerson.com/uploads/documents/Camp_Emerson_Parent_Handbook_2013.pdf

It's not easy to find at all but it is there.