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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post

    Also i find it interesting that here you would find it reasonable to play by the book no matter what but in the snowball debate, where the child intentionally hit a cop, you feel the punisment that is meant for the crime is 'too much'
    I would guess it would depend on your personal opinion of how sever it is to bring beer to school vs. how sever it is to throw a snow ball at someone.
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    I think the 3-day suspension is reasonable. He did bring a beer to school, which is in violation of the rules, and he needs to be accountable for that. However, I do think that two months at an alternative school is too harsh. As others have said, he voluntarily turned it over and I think he should get a bit of slack for that.
    I can agree with this. A 3 day suspension is very reasonable to me. I do know of several private schools though where bringing beer to school would get you permanently kicked out of the school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I would guess it would depend on your personal opinion of how sever it is to bring beer to school vs. how sever it is to throw a snow ball at someone.
    I don't think accidentally bringing beer to school is severe at all. It means there was no intention to consume it, especially since once he did discover the accident, he turned it over...instead of consuming it or giving it to someone else. You think this is severe?

    Aodhan threw a snowball at Nathalie the other day. He was doing it purposefully...although not purposefully aiming at her face. Well he got her in the face and this ball happened to have a good chunk of ice in it unknown to him. Her face was all red rashy and had little cuts on it for several days after.

    I'll tel you right now, i was a lot more ticked off at Aodhan for not being more careful in his games than i ever would be if he accidentally packed the wrong bottle in his lunch box and then gave it to a teacher upon discovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    I don't think accidentally bringing beer to school is severe at all. It means there was no intention to consume it, especially since once he did discover the accident, he turned it over...instead of consuming it or giving it to someone else. You think this is severe?
    That is where you can't know for sure that it was an accident. If it was the type of student who never was in trouble and was trust worthy the teacher/school might have shown more leniency. If the teacher/school felt they were just making the story up, they might be included to give a stiffer sentence. Either way, the school would be justified in punishing a child who had beer as school. For the other debate, I do think the boy should be punished. A felony however in my opinion should be reserved only for the very worst of offences.

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    I dont think he would have turned it in if he brought it on purpose. I think the school is sending the message that if you make a mistake you should try to hide it, very bad idea in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    That is where you can't know for sure that it was an accident. If it was the type of student who never was in trouble and was trust worthy the teacher/school might have shown more leniency. If the teacher/school felt they were just making the story up, they might be included to give a stiffer sentence. Either way, the school would be justified in punishing a child who had beer as school. For the other debate, I do think the boy should be punished. A felony however in my opinion should be reserved only for the very worst of offences.
    I think its wrong to treat someone like they are guilty when you don't have proof...especially in this case because he literally voluntarily turned the beer over. So anything that remotely resembles proof that one does have, it leans towards being an accident. This is just going to teach kids that doing the right thing gets you screwed. I guess if thats what they want to accomplish here then they succeeded. I mean seriously, he would have been better hiding it and bringing it back home or worse drinking it to hide the evidence.

    School should use common sense...yay for sticking to strict rules, boo for the consequences of their decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    I think its wrong to treat someone like they are guilty when you don't have proof..
    He was guilty of having alcohol on school property unless I am missing something. That I do not believe is being contested.

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    I kind of agree with Bonita on this one, because we only have the boy's parents version of events. For all we know 'voluntarily handing it over' was really: goofed off pretending to drink it, caused big disturbance in cafeteria, when a teacher came to see what was going on he quickly said he 'accidentally' brought it and handed it over. We also dont know this child's history at the school, or how he acted when asked about the situation. I just think there are too many unknowns with this one.
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    If it's true that he voluntarily handed it over, I think the punishment is unfair. He was actually obeying the rule. He didn't intend to break it, he wasn't trying to get alcohol into school, and when he realized it, he turned it in immediately. I don't understand what is served by punishing him. But if they caught him with it and he made up that he was ABOUT to turn it in, that's a different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    I kind of agree with Bonita on this one, because we only have the boy's parents version of events. For all we know 'voluntarily handing it over' was really: goofed off pretending to drink it, caused big disturbance in cafeteria, when a teacher came to see what was going on he quickly said he 'accidentally' brought it and handed it over. We also dont know this child's history at the school, or how he acted when asked about the situation. I just think there are too many unknowns with this one.
    Obviously if something came out that stated there is reason to believe he had ill intentions I might change my opinion.

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    Based on the article, I think the school is wrong. He made a mistake, admitted to it and turned it in. I think a warning is okay but not a suspension.
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